GJB

Thanks again Sleepy, I must say I am very impressed with the fact that members on this forum are not only very well informed on their subject but that they are also prepared to spend time helping novices like me begin to get to grips with it. I only hope that my searches give me cause to be a frequent visitor in the future Regards GJB

Hello, I am new to the forum, however after receiving help with a recent detector find I was hoping someone could assist me with some more information in respect of the attached coin. I am aware that this coins is at the cusp of the change from hammered to milled coinage and that as such it is an example of the undated half groat coins struck between 1663 and 1667. I do not have a very extensive library of coin reference books but from my copy of Coincraft I was expecting the obverse legend to read CAROLVS II D G M B F & H REX, however my coin has ET in the legend as opposed to &. I have found a couple of examples of the coin on the internet but they seem to place the coin between 1660 and 1662, but that cannot be right as coins of that date were still hammered. My best guess is that at some point between 1663 and 1667 the legend changed from ET to & (or vice versa)... I would be grateful if anyone could confirm whether this is correct and if so the date when the change took place if possible as I would love to understand my find fully and also put a tighter date to it. Many thanks in advance for any assistance which you can provide

Thank you very much for the confirmation Sleepy, much appreciated. You mention ESC in your post which I presume is a reference book. Whilst I have been detecting for five years and have a growing collection of coins I am only more recently becoming fascinated in really understanding and classifying what I have found. As such I would be grateful if you could provide a full title if this is a reference book or any other recommendations, so that I can start developing my library of reference works. Thanks again for taking the time to reply GJB

In addition please see the attached picture of the reverse...

Hello, This is my first post on the forum. Last weekend I had my first full hammered gold coin and am now seeking as much information on it as I can obtain. So far I know (or believe) that it is a Charles I gold Crown, that it is Group D, fourth bust and tun mint mark. However all of the examples I find online have an inner circle of pellets pictured and on my coin this inner circle is missing both front and back. I have been told that the reverse without an inner circle is known and that there was an example in the Schneider collection (number 247). However I am keen to know whether my coin is indeed a genuine known subclass i.e. one without the inner rings of pellets; an error; or (I hope not as it is clearly gold) a fake. Any information which I can gather in this regard would be much appreciated and enable me to further enjoy what is, for me, a most wonderful find. Many thanks

Found it Rob. Thank you very much for all of this. For me the biggest enjoyment of finding items from the past is learning all about them afterwards - and this is turning out to be no exception. Excellent - I hope I will have cause to visit the site again in the not too distant future with some other find of interest! Thanks again Graham

Great information Rob, that fully puts my mind at rest that this is indeed the genuine article. As I say my first complete hammered gold coin (I am a detectorist of five years standing) and it will always have a special place in my collection. I see the wire line now you mention it, I previously thought it may be an impression from the die when struck. My next job I guess will now be to try and track down a copy of that article to complete the picture... Many thanks for your kind attention Graham