Coys55

As Jerry said in the post above, the two coins you've posted are both of such low quality they would be of zero interest to any auction house and if you listed them on eBay with a starting price of 99p I doubt you'd get any bids. One other thing; neither of your coins are hammered so they are in the wrong area. Try posting them and any other of your non-hammered (milled) coins here instead and I'm sure that you'll get plenty of help. But with much better photos or scans please.

If anyone is after a copy of 'The J. P. Mass Collection of English Short Cross Coins, 1180-1247', Amazon have at least one new copy at the very low price of £50 + £2.80 postage. Sounds almost too good to be true to me...

Thanks guys!

I think that these two cabinets may be the Mascle (standard) by Peter Nichols. The (rough) size and number of trays (14) look right as do the hinges (sometimes he uses long piano hinges and other times two normal small hinges per door), lock and brass door edge. Or could they be cheap copies? Does anyone have an opinion?

Moneyer (or moneyers) Hue Walter Edinburgh-Perth I think.

Oh yes, I missed him when scanning the moneyer list earlier. I showed the pictures to Gerry S this afternoon too and we wasted a couple of minutes on it. Still none the wiser though.

On second thoughts RAVL is too early (classes 1-2). If L.O is correct then only SAMVEL (Canterbury) would work.

From the portrait I can say that it's definitely not Richard I, or Henry II come to that. Probably John, but could also be Henry III I suppose. I think can make out L.O on the reverse so the moneyer could be RAVL, but that's a wild guess.

Reconditioned safes are not too expensive. Regarding hiding them, if it's a clever hiding place I'm pretty sure a burglar would think of it too.

I recommend a good heavy strong safe. Personally I would not consider leaving my collection either at work or with a friend/neighbour due to potential insurance issues in the case of a fire or theft at their premises.

There's one in there... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Cut-Hammered-Coins/153212378184

They certainly got around. My attempt at an ID: Class iie Simond, dies 2540 from Brand.

Well when I started this thread I thought it was the quarter (+hAL on the reverse), but on reflection and on a bigger screen I now think it's probably an early RAVL (+RAV). Sorry about that. I am usually much better at spotting Rhuddlans in these random batches; I have 18 in my collection, very few of which were identified as such by the seller.

Yes, just a misspelling of his name.

It looks like GOLDWIE.ON.CA, which indicates 3ab2 or 4a, but the thick side curls make it look more like 4a to me.

I agree. I really don't get sealing coins in slabs, and the holding tabs which cover part of the coin's rim detract from its beauty, especially if it has an edge inscription. Just protect the coin in a Lighthouse capsule and then take it out and handle it occasionally; unless it is proof or has lustre that may be damaged by handling it will not come to any harm.

I don't know if it covers your period of interest, but have you seen Martin Allen's 2012 British Numismatic Society paper "The Mints and Moneyers of England and Wales 1066-1158"? Download the PDF from: https://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/pdfs/2012_BNJ_82_5.pdf

I'm not convinced about this. Is it a coincidence that on the UK eBay app the auction ended on April 1?

There's a couple on eBay. Apparently it's by Davis. Here's one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1838-QUEEN-VICTORIA-CORONATION-53mm-MEDAL-by-davis/162910486913?hash=item25ee38c181:g:9b4AAOSwCU1YniE3

I find this a useful resource for Commonweath varieties: http://www.sunandanchor.com/html/data_page.html

The NGL spelling error is recorded in London class 6a and 9b1 so I wouldn't be surprised to find it in other classes too.

Surely this can't be right? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unknown-Silver-Hammered-Coin-Siege-Sixpence-/202162280662?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=cyIk3RCFUkJQGtK0GeKStqTfe0A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc It's not my area of expertise, but I can't believe this "unknown silver coin" is really a (Scarbrorough?) sixpence, More than one person believed in it to bid it up to £460 though...

Which thread?

Yes, that's the one; I thought it was probably yours as they don't come up very often, especially on eBay. I spent ages searching for one and eventually called Spink's Numismatic book department and amazingly they had a new copy in stock for £75. The Austin is amazing; effectively a new moneyer given that Mass didn't know what his example was, athough it's no longer unique... I was pleased to pick up the class 2, and for what I thought to be a bargain £42; I don't think anyone else spotted it as a class 2. I can't remember seeing another for ages.

I use my Mass all of the time (I got mine new from Spink 3 or 4 years ago and saw a used copy go on eBay for £102 a few weeks ago) and Wren is OK for a quick mint/moneyer/class check, but otherwise it's too basic. I also use Brand's BNJ paper "The Short Cross Coins Of Rhuddlan" whenever I pick up another Rhuddlan. I'll try to pick up a copy of Short Cross Legends after Xmas - thanks for the recommendation. I didn't see the Austin, but speaking of Mass, I picked up this example of Mass 704 (Class 2 Sitivene on L) in 2013. Like Mass's example it's on a misshapen flan, but mines shows that his example was missing a distinguishing extra floating stop over the L. Not the best condition, but my only class 2 and nice to be able to add something to a Mass example.