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Thank you Tom, for the research that I didn't have the energy to do.

Oh but he did - if you read his tweet, he clearly used the word 'language'. However, he was also criticising the government policy, that I will admit. Thank you for making my point for me. I did say 1933 and 34, which were the first two years of Nazi government - pre-1933 is not relevant. Two, both by the Home Secretary: one that we were being "invaded" by the migrants in small boats (who are clearly desperate people, as I can't see any other reason for risking the lives of themselves and their families crossing a dangerous stretch of water in overcrowded inflatables); two, that she would be ecstatically happy to see the first plane load of migrants heading for Rwanda.

If you read his tweet, you will clearly see he was talking about language, not actions. Which is always the way - to the right, the BBC are a bunch of pinko liberals, to the left, they're a toadying government mouthpiece.

I agree with you re. "trivialisation of the events back then", but please note that he never used the word 'Nazi' (nor, as Suella Braverman implied, 'Holocaust'). He was talking about the language used by governments, and the early pronouncements against the Jews in 1933 and 34 CAN be compared to some extent with the lack of compassion shown by the Tories.

Which is absurd! and utterly debases the meaning of the word.

Obviously, 'racism' as a term is not in itself - as you've pointed out - inherently bigoted; one can discuss racism as an issue in modern society without being bigoted. However, an individual who is racist is, virtually by definition, bigoted: it's not possible to consider one race as inherently superior to another race, or seek to rid one's own culture of a particular race (as has happened to Jews and blacks many times through history), without being so. This is not a lefty stance - one would find agreement in the UK from not only Communists and all sectors of the Labour and LibDem and SNP and Plaid Cymru and Sinn Fein parties, but also the maority of Tories as well.

Please enlighten me : in what way is a racist NOT bigoted??

A perfect description of this forum...

Agreed. iPlayer now carries a huge number of 'box sets' (never having watched Waterloo Road I'm now ploughing through the whole thing); as well as that there are 4 TV channels, and any number of radio stations both national and local; that's not even touching on a vast range of podcasts and the World Service. I'd say I get better value for my £12 a month (which by the way also entitles me to watch ITV & Channel 4) than the £10 I pay Netflix.

Probably part of the contract involved with winning the match coverage to start with? The Beeb may not have had much choice in the matter when getting MOTD rights from the PL.

Sorry, but that's totally wrong. 1) he's sport, for which there are much more relaxed rules about impartiality, and 2) he can say what he likes on Twitter, where he's not representing the BBC. Would I say the same if I didn't 100% agree with him? Don't know...

Wow - I remember R&L from when I was a schoolkid collector in the late 60s!

Is he the original L or perhaps the son of...?

Tsk tsk - you really need to brush up on your 'averages'!!

It is indeed - and they're still functioning, though it seems to be mostly gold these days, a long long way from the 'good old days' of R&L! (whose Blackpool shop I actually went to in the late 70s and bought a few things from...)

I know, along with Master Bates and Seaman Staines - but they're still good jokes even though untrue!

Oh there was - I remember it. But hardly on any great scale - it rated much the same as Georgia and Chechnya.

No.

There's only one response to "one up her chimney"...

Oh lord, it's her again. And no amount of mentioning "the misses" will disguise the fact.

Lovely coin - certainly scarce in THAT condition.

Who is it anyway - Harry No-styles?

Big mistake, I think. And no, the last Canal Journey I saw a few years ago with Prunella Scales and Tim West she was getting pretty bad, poor soul.

You've posted in the Decimal Coins forum - hopefully the mods will move it to the correct place. And yes, we need to see pictures.

How long before the 'COPY' beneath Britannia's shield is carefully rubbed away and it's offered on eBay for 3 figures?