I wouldn't give any kind of verdict on the lower penny. The whole date has been marmalised - look at the 1, the 8, even the 6. They are all to some extent distorted and damaged.
Pleasure to the buyer may be followed at some unspecified point by huge disappointment when what they thought was also an investment produces a big loss. So I would suggest that "rip off" is wrong.
There father who just dyed and didn't no anything about coins but I found them in are atic. I'm tolled their very rare by an ex spurt who I consull constul arksed about them.
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Yes, it does look like an overdate though hard to see upside down.
"I'm calling it 6 over 8 because it looks to me like the 8 is struck over the 6." Illogical, Jim.
Ah. That's a unique type using advanced minting techniques for its time. I'd say neither early milled nor machine age, but a one-off somewhere between the two.