Peckris 2

isn't that where Bowie played his final Ziggy Stardust gig (and hadn't told his bass player and drummer)?

the left hand coin - no brainer

That obverse is such an obvious repro

I used to keep a few, purely for amusement.

I saw them 6 times altogether - 5 with Gabriel, once without. If you want to see the nearest thing to an actual Genesis show these days, Steve Hackett's tours usually focus on a particular era, much as Nick Mason's 'Saucerful of Secrets' tours concentrated on pre-DSOTM Floyd. Hope you enjoy the show! (Just watched The Musical Box on YouTube, at Hammersmith Odeon - they seem pretty good )

Have you seen - Ancientart has changed his forum name!!

Britain had had a token currency since 1816. Before then the wild fluctuations in metal prices - especially silver and copper - during the reign of George III saw only very limited strikings of those coins for currency. However, even a token coinage needs to not be unprofitable to produce, which it had certainly become by 1919. I'm sure you're right about the reasons behind that. Fascinating that the recent rise in silver values more or less brings it into line with the increase in cost of living since 1912.

Superb condition

Nice. Hope your shop finds a buyer.

I've no interest in die numbers on silver Vics, but die "1" must surely be collectable?

It's allowed but it would make far more senses to add to your previous post to save this kind of confusion.

I still think it's odd - there are many low mintage proofs in the 20th Century. Repros are usually of extremely rare coins, or are obvious bad copies of particular types (though not often of 20th Century coins unless extremely rare such as 1933 or 1954 pennies).

You don't want to know if you won the penny?

It's possibly more difficult to tell when the attached picture is of an entire webpage rather than a screenshot of just the coin, but it simply just doesn't look right. It looks wrong in exactly the same way as a Victorian YH repro looks wrong. So my money's on a repro unless we can see the coin isolated from the webpage.

Unbelievably I missed seeing these posts. I think you've made a very valid point. The two 6's are indeed different, and there is absolutely no reason why they'd have two virtually identical experimental dies each with a different 6 stamped on, just to strike a few coins. The other suspicion - though it might sound rather trivial and inconclusive - is the colour difference; 1926 pennies are usually darker than 1927 onwards which usually have a paler more orangey hue. But as I say, that's not really conclusive unless someone has a record of an alloy change made in 1927.

My own set is in the cardboard case. Cost me rather more than 15/- though...

There are repros of 1927 florins? Why?

Do you have a picture? They're only worth anything (a few £) if in Uncirculated condition, a little more if it has full lustre. In other words, like this:

I'm not sure Ron Vibbentrop agrees...

No, a brockage is where a coin gets stuck below the die, so when the next blank arrives the stuck coin imprints itself on it giving an incuse version of the entire design.

The 'compelling reason' is whether there's a currency version of the proof coin (e.g. the shilling) or whether the 1927 exists only as a proof, e.g. the threepence.

Looks like a cud?

Wow. I've seen the "original" (which you have?) and have always assumed - correctly or not - that it's a proof or pattern created to test the actual true non-mule type that would be seen in 1927. By the way, D+d cannot be a mule, unlike the actual 1926ME - it's what the 26ME WOULD have been if they hadn't been in such a hurry to 1) get the small supply of 1926 pennies where they were unexpectedly needed, and 2) were fully resourced supervising the changeover to the Modified Effigy for all denominations, plus preparing the new reverses for 1927.

Seriously? Or joking? If you really have, are you up for selling one of them?

I would say poor strike, as the lettering on the garter is perfect, and that's among the first areas to wear. Difficult to grade without seeing in hand, but I would say the second one is AUNC.