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	  Long cross penny identificationdavid.bordeaux replied to david.bordeaux's topic in British Hammered For anyone using the Google Drive workaround, don't forget to set the permissions: right click > Share > Share, then change from "Restricted access" to "Anyone with the link" (Viewer).
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	  Long cross penny identificationdavid.bordeaux replied to david.bordeaux's topic in British Hammered Also trying a link to Google Drive to see if that works: Obverse link Reverse link
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	david.bordeaux started following Florin diameters , Long cross penny identification , Concerning Proofs of the 1960 British Exhibition Crown and 3 others
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	Could anyone kindly help with identifying this penny? HENRICUS [III] on the obverse and I think I can make out a sceptre. With a bit of imagination, the reverse legend might be NICOLE ON LVND. Possibly Class 5, but I can't narrow it down any further. Any help would be much appreciated. Penny_B_O@0.1x.pdf Penny_B_R@0.1x.pdf (Posting PDFs due to the recurring 403 problem.)
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	If a silver proof does exist, and assuming it is the same thickness as the cupro-nickel crown, it would be more easily identifiable by weight than by the unreliable "ring" test: Cu-Ni: 28.27590 g (the standard weight given in the Coinage Act 1946) .925 silver: 32.82 g .999 silver: 33.16 g Otherwise, a silver coin of the same weight as the cupro-nickel crown would be noticeably thinner (about 2.47 mm compared with 2.91 mm, so easily visible to the naked eye when placed side by side). This is due to the differing densities of the metals/alloys: Ag 10.49 g/cm3, sterling silver 10.3845, cupro-nickel 8.9455.
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	  Thorburn Collection of 1887 coinsdavid.bordeaux replied to Mr T's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries I wonder if the sale will include the "proof florin with a wide gap below the truncation"? Bull and other cataloguers imply wrongly that this is the "normal" proof, but in fact nearly all the 1887 proof florins have the later obverse with a narrow gap.
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	The 1862 plain-edge proof Gothic florin (2849 in Bull, who records it as "not traced") sold for $21,600 (including buyer's premium) at Heritage yesterday. At least we know that it exists now.
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	  TICKET CENTRALdavid.bordeaux replied to Rob's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries Jameson 1004 to 1008 are all Poseidon, so maybe a misreading or misattribution?
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	  TICKET CENTRALdavid.bordeaux replied to Rob's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries 
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	Does this exist? Anybody got one or seen one? It has been listed since The Milled SIlver Coinage of England (Spink, 1925) and appears in "old" ESC as 807B and the current edition of Bull as 2825 (with rarity R3). Davies lists it as 723 but with an asterisk to indicate "to be confirmed". I suspect it is one of those errors that have been copied and pasted from the 1925 book (like the 1887 florin with 34 arcs). Dickinson wrote in 1978 and 1980 (Seaby Coin and Medal Bulletin) that the 1853 florin with a stop after the date was "unlikely to exist" and I am inclined to agree.
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	  London Coins Cataloguesdavid.bordeaux replied to Rob's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries On the subject of London Coins, I see from my invoice for the June sale that their buyer's commission is soon to go up to 18.5%
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	  Florin diametersdavid.bordeaux replied to david.bordeaux's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries The Royal Mint Museum has confirmed that 28.30 mm is incorrect and according to "the data used in the Museum, sourced from the production records held in our archive" the diameter for all florins from 1893-1970 should be 28.50 mm.
 
         
	 
					
						 
                     
                     
                    