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Stephen Album's (SARC) auctions aren't nearly as frequent as HA, Stack's (SB), Great Collections. The other three pretty much only deal in slabbed coins now, with rare exceptions . While sarc does handle raw pieces, generally these are lower quality condition, often sold as mixed lots, don't get very nice photos, if any, and so generally won't bid up well for you. I agree with the idea to slab better pieces, as it's just how the market is here in the US, but obviously avoid doing so for lower-priced items, as grading is so expensive, and slow. If a coin is not worth $100, at least, if not even a good bit more, keep it raw. But for better pieces, it's frankly going to do far better in a plastic slab, and NGC could even attach a Collection name to your submission, if you desire (I imagine it costs more money). Take time going through sold listings on eBay and all the auction houses, compare to similar grades. I concur with selling especially raws on eBay, or privately to individuals, including offering some in forums, or Reddit coin selling subs. I know someone who works for Stack's, but he focuses on US, especially dollars. You could also try to find world coin dealers, see if they'll give you a decent offer for raw less expensive items as a lot. I know a few coin shop owners, one or two through Discord who might be interested (and they'd buy it all raw, submit pieces to TPG they feel are worth it, which would probably be quicker, but less money for you), though I can't comment on their offered prices, I've not sold. Obviously anyone you sell to wants to make money, but do your research on recent sold listings, so you're not going to be taken advantage of. If you're interested, I can post the links to Reddit subs used for selling coins, as well as the Coin Discord server, where most users are in the US, but many of us collect world coins, plus some of the aforementioned dealers are in there. You could pose this opening post query in there, to get feedback from them. Just let me know if any of that interests you. You may find splitting it up among a few places worth your time. The best graded pieces especially are sure to be best suited for large auction houses, where more participants are to catch bidding fever.

Oh yeah, I've bought off of him, only from his auctions. He does get some decent pieces from around the world he auctions.

I laugh, but it's true.

A shop in the States has a copy I'm contemplating buying. It's $50 with shipping and tax, so hoping it's a decent buy.

If anyone is interested in German Coinage, and is up to using the Discord platform, there is a great Germanic Coin server on there. I'm sure I could get whomever an invite.

I know it's common for people (dealers, eBay sellers) to misattribute the tides on 1895, 1897, 1902, but I'm looking at the NGC slabbed offerings, and they often seem off. I'm not wrong am I, that these two 1897 labelled as High Tide aren't actually high tide? https://www.ebay.com/itm/186136288294 https://www.ebay.com/itm/232339243134 It rather muddies the waters more if every available slabbed "High Tide" isn't, (or Low Tide for 1902), and lends credence to every other seller thinking they also have the rarer tide. The damage NGC does is infuriating, doubly so as they're raking in so much, while throwing fuel in this fire. They need to work a bit on earning expertise credentials.

Some of this may me deception from HA, too. I've bought quite a few things from them, and some photos are def juiced.

Their Instagram page hasn't been updated in years.

Looks like a high tide example to me.

Prob best for us on android, thanks

Pretty outstanding piece, it is. My thought on it, yes.

Yeah, exactly my thought. NGC's pictures are working again, much easier to see details from my NGC link above. Clearly the date has incomplete 1 & 0 from the pics on there. NGC called it a proof, as well, just seems the incorrect P-number.

They seem to not have it hosted online any longer, however the catalog can be obtained here https://media.biddr.com/media/pdf/auction_catalogues/4516.pdf It's lot 1432, closer to the end. Attributed by NGC as P-1342, which iirc is standard circ 1806. I peg it as a KP 31 pairing, based upon imperfect 1 and 0 in date. Base of 1 missing, top of 0 is open. KP 31 gives us the following possibilities: P-1325 is gilt P-1326 is bronzed P-1327 is copper .... so one of these three. Not gilt, I think just standard copper, but maybe it's bronzed, I certainly am not too sure there. I tried to crop pic for the site, but results are not very clear. Best to download the catalog. NGC's cert images aren't currently working, but the link to that coin is here, hoping images are back up soon: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2153879-035/65/

I saw pieces in both auctions netting 12x to 16x the est. Wild. Either way, hope to obtain a print copy of part 2, also.

I won one, prob way overbid on it, second tier on many, some I wish i'd pursued more. Some I got left in the dust quickly. The bids were all extremely strong, in both ancients and British. NGC got the Peck number wrong on the 1806 proof penny.

Atlas upcharges quite a lot on their items. I've lost auctions, to later find the item on their site, with a good 50 to 200% increase over auction price (incl juice). If I was already priced out in the auction, I'm def not buying from them with such a huge premium tacked on. I know they need to make money, but ouch.

Yeah world of difference imo

That's extremely ugly, esp for a proof. Horrid toning, weak strike, just bad eye appeal.

I have a friend who recently picked up an 1831 proof sixpence, and has found conflicting mintage figures. "I've been trying to pin down the mintage for a while, though. Official numbers are apparently 120 but heritage says 400." I'm seeing for them if anyone might have some insight into this. Thanks.

Thanks for this additional context.

Yeah, tho i didn't know if that applied to proofs, or just currency. Chris added this tidbit: "Ah right, it's S-3836/ESC-2501 so nothing even rarer like the grain-edged proof"

Hi I am very keen on obtaining Michael Gouby's combined book on pennies: * The British Bronze Penny 1860 - 1901 (book) joint 1st & 2nd edition combined book, (or the two parts). My preference is the version in binder, but I'm not in a position to be choosy, the bound version would be great. Gouby's original sales page for the book. http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/Vic Bronze 1d.htm I am located in USA, for what it's worth, regarding shipping and payment. I could pay via paypal, one of the easier transatlantic payment methods, or we could try to work out some other method. Alternately, if you know of a seller with a copy for sale, please private message me the details. I have looked at Galata, Douglas Saville, and other places, from time to time, but no luck. Thanks for the consideration, Jonathan

I did obtain a copy, thank you. If anyone else has a copy available, a friend from The Coin Discord server is interested in a copy.

NGC moments. Thanks guys.

Very nice, PWA.