The Bee

Thank you again to everyone for your help on this - I have managed to photograph the misty 1877 under another 1877 and it does look like the 13 tooth - so a common version - I'll post that image a bit later In the meantime hope nobody minds - here is the reverse of my "best condition" 1877 with the odd 2nd N in Penny and a break in the ships ribbon or pennant (not sure what to call it !) And apologies I also spotted yesterday 1861 Penny (might be common) which is normally reverse side up in the tray, the obverse legend Victoria is missing possibly the bottom of both I's the C and the O; the D in D.G. has gaps at top and bottom, and the D in F.D. has a gap at the bottom. I'm certain I saw the identical problems on a coin in Richard's amazing wordpress Penny listings - but couldn't track it down again ! (should have made a proper note of it) Lastly, I know this isn't for everyone, I collect Farthings , I doubt that I have anything rare (virtually everything has come out of old low cost albums) but there there may be something of interest. Obviously a different topic but not sure where to post if of interest Very Best Regards and thank you once again to Terry for his photographs of the 1877 penny dates, to Richard for his 1877 penny photo and incredible work on Wordpress, to Paddy for pointing out the date type, Martin for the 7 over 7 photo, and for Alf and Martin for the feedback on the "foggy" (don't see how the ship could have seen the lighthouse) 1862 penny Richard

Hi Paddy I'm sure you are right. its probably 13 tooth rather than 14 tooth version (may thanks to Terry for the size breakdowns). As a comparison I took as look at my "best" 1877 Penny (fortunately only some of my Penny's are "misty") I think its 12 teeth but I might be wrong (still getting to grips with what to line up when counting !) it is small compared to the "wider". My "best" doesn't have the double 7 which Martin kindly shared but there is something up with 2nd N in Penny - looks like there has been a break of some kind - might need to check under the microscope

Hi Here is the 1862

That is amazingly helpful - I had no idea there were so many different 1877's. It is a very worn coin (so please don't laugh when you see the photo) and worn coins can be quite misleading (I have an 1875 where the "5" looks like a small 5 like a half penny - but a look under the microscope and it is just wear) . For the 1877 you can just see the top of the 2nd "7" and sadly no its lost its teeth I've just taken this photo with a iphone but if you wanted more detail (not that there is much !) I can get an image from my microscope Great to see what you think Very Best Regards Richard P.S. I did find a small date 1862 yesterday (again very worn but clearly the smaller size) I may try to go through my other 1877's today (most of which are in much better condition) and probably 1873. I've moved the 1862 into my main tray so it doesn't get lost !