Peter

In? Out? or sabotage. Catch 22 for David I fear. What ever decision is made the Country must unite to prosper....& Oh...if there is a choice please buy British.

An appropriate time to repeat that memorable newspaper headline "Fog In Channel, Europe Isolated". Which pretty much sums up the problem. European politicians are incapable of recognising that they are responsible for the mess and will blame anything or anyone but themselves. By extension, the solution is equally impossible for them to contemplate. Euro coins could become very rare indeed if they need to melt them all to provide the raw material for the replacement currencies. I've still got my holiday Franc's,Peseta's,Escudo's & Dracma. I fondly remember filling the wine rack in the Gite and then experimenting over the next 2 weeks over which one's I enjoyed but being so bladdered I couldn't rememember.It was 2 weeks of ground hog day

Like many rip offs we face day to day.The louder and more aggressive marketing machines yell the more success they have in putting doubt into peoples minds and the willingness to trust their own judgement. I will bet you I know more about UK copper coins than any grader working for these companies. Grading companies are aimed at "ham fisted cowboys" who have been to an extent brainwashed into thinking this is essential. It is like insurance,an expensive comfort blanket...how far do you insure yourself and day to day items/events?I insure my house & car because I have to...thats it Don't forget if your water supply should leak between your house and the main its your responsibility....yeah it happens every day doesn't it?Unless you have artic lorries running over your drive rolls of blue plastic pipe are unlikely to leak.Don't dig for Austrailia though without a pair of divining rods. Next time a shop assistant or company mention the "insurance" word stop....save your money and pop into the bookies...its more fun at least.

You also need an electronic reclining chair and exclusive Ist dibbs on the pile of remote controls.

Steeleye Span!!! Have I Whooooooooshed you Peck....that was the joke

Thanks for that Peck. I like Asparagus and the band that sang "All around my hat" too.

Debbie At the end of the day we all have our favorites,some love lustre on copper...I do as well but I'm quite content with a nice even brown tone. I won't buy coins with edge damage or verdigris but don't have a problem with a certain amount of wear.I'm very found of good eye appeal and when you see a dealer occasionaly describe a coin as pleasing it gets my attention. I didn't bid on last weekends London coin auction but was sorely tempted by LOT 1778 which was a 1775 1/2d.If I saw it at a coin fair for £110 I would buy it.I went through a lot of cold turkey by not bidding....and not the boxing day type.

Trouble is though UK dealers differentiate so much.A novice could buy 5 coins from every dealer who advertise in Coin News...all Unc and I bet you would get a spread of NEF to Choice Unc.At least PCGS and NGC would probably be fairly consistant. Lets be honest here...who hasn't bought an Unc from a UK dealer and then compared it to your own GEF and it doesn't cut it ? Learn the hard way and send em back....

I won't bother, They constantly fail to meet deadlines and don't even get it printed in the UK. It took them years to even attempt to catch up with Peck/Freeman..far better info is out there. If Rotographic sorted the milled series prior to 1797 job done.

Spot on Rob. I've pointed out mistakes in museums many times,usually they don't seem too bothered. I did tell one Ebay seller what he had...It was a William 1 1d and he had dated it by using the Seaby nr 1250 something (it was an inherited coin). As with all auction houses,dealers and sellers if you know your subject and the research has been done you are top dog. It would take me an age to attribute a load of Victorian Bun pennies....I've probably binned a few open 3's

OK Gents...you might not agree with TPG's but this is the standard of Sheldon. http://coins.about.com/od/coingrading/qt/coin_grading101.htm

Are you sure it is not SLG? This is a MM for Lyon.

Our AUNC would be MS60-62. MS63=UNC & any MS after this will have good eye appeal/better strike etc. A MS65 will be a choice UNC & anything above this will be a wallet buster. With our TPG CGS. A CGS80 will be very nice and 85 superb probably a PCGS MS65/6. My own records use UNC or AUNC...I never use BU unless it was minted yesterday.(and I don't collect those)Note that CC never use BU...always practically or nearly. I've bought a couple of PCGS & NGC MS65's and as far as I can see they are superb

Be warned and make sure that your Ebay/Paypal accounts are bomb proof. My main selling account was randomly checked for money laundering. The Email Address was my 16 yr old daughters and verified by my wife's bank account and my credit card. It is illegal to use my daughters Email as she is under 18. What I have had to do is end 15 listings without being able to apologise to bidders.Scan a passport of my daughter to paypal and hopefully when the funds in paypal can (hopefully) be transferred to my buying account...close my selling account down.(nearly £1,000 in obeyance ) I suppose it is a good thing that checks are made but it has been a right hassle since 17:30 to try and sort all this out. Be wary and don't trust your kids to set up accounts.....although she makes the keyboard smoke with her quickness. She hasn't lost her job as chief lister though.

Here is a bit of info on the Sheldon grading system http://coins.about.com/od/coingrading/f/sheldon_scale.htm I think once you get to MS63 (graded by PCGS or NGC) you will be getting a reasonable UNC coin with maybe a few bag marks...MS65 plus and it will be choice UNC. MS70 for currency is so rare and sought(the Yanks pay HUGE premiums). The shilling isn't pretty and I would of been disappointed if bought blind. Be wary of other slabbed coins as a lot are done by "self slabbers" also other TPG companies in the US don't have such a good reputation.

How not to sell a rarer type coin. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-Penny-1897-extremely-rare-type-/180763615153?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2a1659dfb1&autorefresh=true

Thanks for inspiring me on the likelyhood of a quick fix.

I've got an older version of this....simples http://www.comet.co.uk/p/3.5-inch-Desktop-Hard-Drive/buy-IOMEGA-SELECT-3.5IN-500GB-EXTERNAL-HARD-DRIVE-3.5-inch-Desktop-Hard-Drive/567795

I did mentioned and was put off by the piercing several posts ago.I'm pierce free (apart from my Prince Albert )If a calibre coin comes up for sale the previous owner is usually dead. With the popular 1d series £8,000 + wouldn't suprise me.

Asda I know the horse has bolted but I've had problems with USB sticks before. You can buy an external hard drive for peanuts (I also update a stick on a regular basis. Good luck.

and we would of got away with it if it wasn't for those PESKIE kids.... Rob,nice P1258 please expand how you managed this. I shall start again using my hotmail address,same bank account and card....no difference but hey I'm flexible. Why can't they concentrate on the dodgy sellers who shill,knowingly clean,sell replica's and some of the untouchable buyers who make life a misery....I would like to use the "Clarkson" method. I've been scammed 3x on the lost coin ruse,an idiot in India who bids/wins that is the last you hear from him(still 100% feedback despite about 20 of us complaining in our "positive" feedback) & a "Mad" cow I would love to take on a one way trip to see a nice Swiss Dr.

OK the blighter is rare...but like accumulator I couldn't live with it. Has anyone else got/links to rare coins which have been butchered(ignoring sovereigns and guineas)

15/16g of 22ct is worth nearly £400 melt....This could be obtained without Ebay/paypal fees....however A fiji collector might be out there.

The following has been released in our local rag. http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/essex_200_historic_coins_go_missing_at_metal_detecting_event_1_1143151 Would you be tempted? How about if you found a hoard of anglo Saxon pennies....would you just keep a couple of nice ones? It probably just took one of the detectorists to trouser one and then Oh dear. I can't see how they could be historically important though.

It may grade GF but with the piercing and other damage it would be "poor" money...the same as clear date buns. Even though it is a key date I'm afraid it's bin material.