Peter

I've been watching this live as hackers have got into these web sites. They put up a spoof that Murdoch was dead,redirected hits to their twitter page and have been generally running riot. It makes me wonder where all this hacking and snooping will end up.

Where did you get it? Goldberg's Terner Sale of May, 2003. Hardly seems possible it was eight years ago. Marv Is this a record...a reply to a thread 4 1/2 years on

Next time the Sally Army are in my club I will pop an extra guinea in the collection tin...I think I have a spare 1703 VIGO knocking about somewhere.

Chris, the VAT rules are causing me a headache or two! The Global Accounting scheme means that whatever is my stock cost price at date of registration (August 2010) becomes a negative equity. Each sale under £500 (UK and EU only) is a positive equity thus reducing my negative balance. All sales of over £500 on individual items must have an entry in a stock book showing cost price and sale price, with 20% due on the profit (these items are under the VAT Margin Scheme ). All invoices of mine must show that I am not charging VAT to the customer but I am registered. Any item of over £500 that I cannot provide a receipt for cannot be listed under the margin scheme and is liable for VAT at 20% on the full sale price. Some gold is zero rated and some isn't. These are the simplified rules !!!! As for your question.... sorry I am lost! VAT plus income tax plus ebay extortion plus customers wanting discount plus rising stock purchase costs plus rocketing fuel costs = slim pickings on the profit front At least the collection is growing though!! John. Apologies John,I didn't realise you had it so bad . I'm lucky in that I can invoice monthly (or whatever) and add my 20% and then my accountant (quarterly) sorts out my flat rate based on turnover (which is a lesser %)He also invoices me quarterly for his services at this time so everyone is happy and I have a few hours left to pour over coins,decorate and say loving things to Mrs Peter. I can imagine due to the nature of the beast yours is a nightmare...Move to the Isle of Man or somewhere or sell your coins really cheaply to keep under the threshold...now there's a thought.

Welcome to the forum You are sensible in avoiding ebay and unknown dealers in your quest. try Historic Coinage. Clive is a forum member (on several forums I use)and will give you what you want. If you just want the 1 coin make sure it is round,no splits and can be ID'd. In my opinion it will be an investment (for the very reason you are after one).

Some nice coins on your site...the Cromwell is spectacular. Apart from the shilling thread(s) there are some interesting discussions. Welcome. Peter

I too am spending a great deal of time, rather than money, on old cars - but it was ever thus. On the other hand, a friend is threatening to pay me to restore his MGB to health, so that might at least supplement my meagre income as a coin dealer... Keep it meagre as long as you can Derek. I have had to register for VAT and it's a right pain in the arse! My accountant does mine and its a nice way to earn a few £ for nothing (claiming 20% and only paying less as a small business )

Hi You are quite near to Birmingham NEC motorbike museum which has the Midland fair every 2nd Sunday of the month.There are many dealers with the 25p to £5 boxes plus plenty of dealers with albums full of the coins you are after. I think you might enjoy a visit.

After 49&46 50&51 are the rarest brass 3d's. If it was Unc it would be worth a few bob. The one offered looks cleaned (grade looks cleaned VF) I've never seen a counterfeit brass 3d.

I'm in a decorating frenzy as contracts are scarce at present. I now also lurk on DIY sites One of Mrs Peter's friends commented that the wallpapering was the best she had seen and could she have the decorators nr. My head swelled and I've been stuck in the lounge ever since.(although I confess I've learned by mistakes). We also have another property which has been done to "rental standard" and I've got an eye open for another opportunity. Oh the joys of nearly paying off my mortgage. If only I can persuade Mrs Peter to get a full time job Breakfasting the kids,taking the dog for a walk,a bit of painting and a visit to the DIY sheds is a nice way to spend a day.

I think the local pie shop are looking forward to a busy weekend. Whatever (or whoever) persuaded them to go public.

no-way, so they cut coins in halfs and quarters instead of making halves and quarter denominations, how lazy! lol as always thanks for the info. Just goes to show that the name "halfpenny" is literally true! The cut coins are short cross and more than likely Henry 111 (or could be an earlier rarer monarch.) The long cross,Edward 1 onwards(the cross goes completely to the edge)superceeded the short cross to discourage clipping of the flan which was rife. The cross gave a convenient template for cutting the coins. Eventually 1/2d's and 1/4d's were minted. I have seen cut groats (4d's). Cutting and clipping continued.

I emailed the seller over the weekend politely pointing out the error of his ways.He replied yesterday with no text. He has a reserve on it(min £50) so if it sells it will be to a novice...the joys of ebay.

Cu pennies started in 1797 Before copper 1/4ds we had the Rose/Harrington & Lennox's etc & beautiful little silver gems with the early Eddies. We also had to cut up pennies into halves and quarters because pennies couldn't cut the mustard. It's not have a go at Dave time...it's just the shiney bun pennies can sometimes hurt your eyes and the bias on the forum is pennies.

6 The henry looks repro...far too central and a "punch like" profile. 7 The 1673 farthing is reasonable but porous and only F/F+.Early copper seems to be always overgraded.However a clear date and no major blemishes boost value. Many a time my heart has raced as I have picked up a good looking piece of early copper only to discover the other side has problems IE date not clear or a flan flaw.

Spink 2007 is OK as a reference.However if you want the latest (2011) coin values from 1797 to date Rotographics book (Collectors coins GB)at about £6 is excellent value and gives an insight on some of the popular varieties. Maybe narrow your field of collecting and buy the best you can afford. Silver and gold coins are at record levels and the best bun pennies are steaming hot. There are some nice Irish coins to collect from 17C onwards (nice 1/4d's and 1/2d's) I love the Wood's copper from 1722/23. Ebay is OK and convenient but some low grade stuff goes for silly money. Rather than just internet get a few dealers lists (adverts in coin monthly) request a few and order a few coins and you will soon get the jist of the better dealers. Pecks done a nice job on grading...BTW ebay prices for 1887 jubilee coins are way over the top. Welcome to thr forum.

Fascinating piece of trench art there, must have been a bloke, because he has erased Mary!! Never seen anything like that before, are you selling John? I do collect love tokens in the form of farthings, got a few but nothing that early. Wonder if the N was removed or the result of a filled die.... I never noticed the N Colin. I couldn't work out why the date has been altered to 1696? A very good job on it mind as the 4 is all but unrecognisable. When I first saw the obverse I thought a typical worn William 96 but the obverse suprised me being W&M. Now what has happened to the date? A good 0 & a typical 6 all from a 94 !!!!!. Who ever did this maybe could make me a nice 1693. Colin why trench art?...most of the art involved the current circulation coins at the time not a 220 year old coin. This is such a good example that it further gives me doubt of the authenticity of 1676 and 1693...and Dave I think it is a open 6 over tooth but not worn enough to be worth £20k plus & your oldest copper penny is Everything can be for sale (other than pennies and halfcrowns) but, I wouldn't have any idea what a fair price would be on it.

I wonder who you're talking about? My question too. Here's my memory of the guys I used to frequent in the 1990s : Dave Craddock - had some very nice stuff, but a lot of cheaper stuff too Wayne Nichols - another mixed-bag guy, who could probably exist off his best stuff Stephen Lockett - an enormous range Dan ?Daley (the other half of Lockdale) - ditto Dorset Coins - a lot of modern stuff, but nothing VERY highly priced Windsor Coins - some nice pieces but generally trading off the lower ends My first thought is that none of those guys fit the description, but maybe I'm WAY out of date? KB coins.....a super copper section but too hot.

The thread is over 7 years old!!!!!

My wife calls it coin collectors stoop. A drop of pain relief gel on Sunday evening is called for. & Colin they supply chairs for us farthing buffs so we can go through the 50p boxes whilst the Penny boys need their bankmanagers to OK some scummy worn "open 3" discs.

I wonder who you're talking about? I shared a stall at the June Fair and although other dealers do have a snoop round before the show opens, there is literally too much stuff for everything worthwhile to be snapped up, so it's not all doom and gloom. It certainly isn't doom and gloom.The young collector can fill his boots up on stuff that costs 2or3x more on Ebay.I also have got an unused North 1 for £10.Subscribed to Coin news and got loads of old copies FOC.Bought Rotographic publications and many,many coins.One tip though is that the lighting can be awful so plenty of carrots the night before and an illuminated glass will help. PS going every 3 months enables me to sneek enough £ out of the cash point to throw Mrs Peter off the scent.

I attend a few every year.The 4 bigger ones are Dec,March,June & Sept. It is a hunt to find decent stuff at the right price but it is there. Decent stuff with clear good prices doesn't exist.It will be snapped up before the fair opens. Likewise I have seen joe public turn up with some half decent coins and get shafted. Its a bit of an old pals act and I reckon you will need to get known. I've sold a few coins and notes there and have done a few trade ins.One particular well known (non internet)dealer has massive stunning stocks and massive prices.He probably only needs to sell a few per week.

The subject is fairly wide. We can point you in the right direction if you let us know your interests and depth of study.

& the chance you will pick up any work NIL. Unbelievable...why bother?

Welcome back young Patrick. Looking forward to 6 weeks off school? John Oh those heady days of no mortgage,cycling 25 miles with a kreel and rod bag on my back to fish the fen drains,being fitter than a butchers dog...the big attraction of young ladies and beer ahead of me. Grandparents still alive. Any youngsters reading this appreciate what you have now and while you're at it come and mow my lawn.