Sylvester

Well it works for me this time Chris; So this one should work!

Try this Chris...please work!!!! http://www.coinpeople.com/forums/album_pag....php?pic_id=387 I am now logged off on that site so it really should work...

I think it's because i was logged in at the time, but i'll sign out and have a go at putting one up. It's worked before on here, so i'm surprised it didn't work this time. It'll be on shortly. (Alright in about 1/2 hr).

Chris how much do you think this is worth? And no i'm not selling it; i just want to know what you'd price it up as...considering how often (or not) one comes across these; it's a half guinea. (please excuse my poor scanning skills) http://www.coinpeople.com/forums/album_pic....php?pic_id=387 How do you actually post pictures on here? It won't let me use img as i'm used to...?

I only made first contact on rcc, that US internet group, but i haven't seen him on there in ages!!! I dunno where he's gone...

Erm i haven't heard anything from him in ages... Is he still out there? And yes Das i get everywhere...

Try this website... http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/dieno.html This is not an exhaustive list, there may be others unrecorded out there, but it be safe to say these are the majority. I had a figure somewhere for how long the average die lasted, (i.e how many coins it would be expected to mint), but can i find it? can i.... Syl.

Yes the 'I' and the 'P' are the things to look for when grading these coins. Often with the E7 stuff i rely on the rev for grading the coin. (not my area of expertise you might say ) E7 2/6d's also wear different to the G5 ones, + they wear much faster. Syl.

Ya alle ist klar Ich kan nicht deutche sprechen or spell either...

Enquiries about coins is a double arrow for me too Chris! So if you just work here, who runs it?

But the beauty of die numbers is that you can actually work out a rough estimate of how many coins were minted by a particular die in any year. You find the average die out put that any particular die can be expected to produce, (i had a figure somewhere but it's not at hand now) then you can find all the die numbers for that date (i can get those) and divide the total mintage figure that year by the number of dies. Hopefully the average die out put number and the number you arrive at will be within a few hundred thousand of each other at the most, give or take. And by studying how often you come across certain numbers you can figure out which dies were the least used and which were the most used. Obviously that's greatly simplified but it can be a wonderful study to do! Sylvester.

I don't know about that. I suppose they would have kept records somewhere, but whether any of these records have survived is another matter! Not sure about the copper. I guess that would be a bit like die numbers in the Victorian period if they did though!

Nope no mintage figures that i can get my hands on. Eliza and I have been discussing this mintage figures problem at great length in the Early Milled discussion. I'll keep my eyes out though.

First one to seven gets to buy me a coin! Well don't all rush at once now...

Yeah and i used to be level three, now i seem to have gone back down??

that in Spink! Do you know how many were made and do you have a picture perhaps?Thanks p.s it may list it but i don't remember seeing it They were issued in wedge shaped cases. Four coins in total Crown, Halfcrown, Shilling, Sixpence. Price in Coincraft's 2000 Catalogue is £10 000 Ref Coincraft 2000, p.651.

Well i suppose it would be better than minting a whole load of substandard ones that have to go back in the pot! I believe that they had to recut the dies when the changed from sterling to half silver because the new alloy was too hard for the old design. Notice the missing serifs on the E's in Georgivs, N.B half crowns dated 1920 with serifs could well be Sterling silver!

Even a 1952 one?

You know what that could actually be for, (there are other possibilities) but the fact that it is in cupronickel leads me to thinking that it might be a test for striking in the new metal. Don't forget that CuNi is harder than Ag and thus will require more pressure in striking to get the same effect. And the obverse is where it would be most noticable. Possibly also to test the finer milling as well. Probably struck between 1946/7 before the regular issue began, just to make sure they had got it right. Then again it could be for unhonest gamblers!

That must be one of the most seldom seen proof sets. Other than 1746 of course.

I was going to say, that 1954 penny would be a killer in any collection. I once tried to collect Brass Threepences, but i was amazed at how expensive the BU ones could get. (High for the series that is, it's nothing in comparison to what i'm on now) You know the rounded corners varities and the 1950 and 1951 specimens, going for £60+ upto £200. And many dealers don't distinguish which variety they are selling, round corners or sharp corners, and the difference is astounding in prices for some dates, 1946 *cough*. Only proofs i see come up regularly are the 1887, 1893, 1902 (where the proofs are sometimes cheaper!) 1911, 1927? was it '27 or '28? 1937, 1953 and everyone's favourite 1970. There are some other years i've forgotten, 1853? and the preceeding coronation years. Forgive me but i've been out of Modern Milled for a year or two.

Ah well Chris i've got my eye on those Charles II Sixpences i saw at that coin shop. Hopefully i'll put something aside for at least one of those. I think i'll break the bank if i try to get all three, two maybe if i can swindle it. If she puts the price too far up!!! She should remember Charles ones are harder to get hold of...especially with such nice toning as those. Oh and i've got a feeling i'm going to end up buying a Gothic Florin. Gorgeous coins, but i can't collect everything. By far my favourite English coin is that florin series, but doing the calculations it proved more achievable to do a sixpence collection. I always wanted something EM, but those florins are calling me. I don't think i could take on two major collections!!! Arrgghhhh. Why did William Wyon design such a beautiful coin? There's temptation everywhere.

Having just seen that now!!! Forget what i said in the post about showing a picture! Not bad at all. On my scale of EM Sixpences, Dark Green = easy to get hold of, Red with star = Near impossible. This weighs in at orange. (with a star). It's the second hardest of the normal (non-proof) George II issue to get. Only being surpassed by the 1728 plain.

Yes how!!! I surprised you can get them at all...very rare you see them. I've never seen one of the less well know proofs for sale! Syl.

Overdates are simple. Basically if too many dies are made in a year, or some dies are still useable, or have plenty of life left in them, then all that happens is instead of making a new die the old one has the last digit of the date overpunched with the current date. So a 1708 die would become a 1709 with the 9 over 8 Similarly 1709 could become 1710with 10 over the 09 bit. Sylvester.