Sylvester

Well Henry II had short cross coins.

I'm a copper-phobe

I hated English literature, and i hate Shakespeare (except for the Merchant of Venice, but he totally nicked that story). Now funny you should say that Geoff, i didn't get into the top group in English but i was in one of the two intermediate groups, where i was borderline of whether i should go in for the higher paper or the foundation. Well the teacher put me on foundation English (the previous teacher had put me on higher), anyhow i sailed through the exam with no problems and scored the top mark i could get on foundation English, grade C. I went to college and took English language, AS level i got an A. During the second year though we got a really naff teacher and my grades dropped slightly and thus i came out with a B at A-Level. Which was still an improvement over GCSE! Infact come to think of it the grade i seem to almost always level out at was B/C. I'm overall a B person. Infact i got B in History at both GCSE and A-Level, double B in science, B in French, and also in maths. At uni i'm heading for a 2:1 with a bit of luck, which is the equivalent of, yep... B. By the way i loved Chemistry... now there was a subject i really enjoyed. I used to look forward to going to those lessons. I'm now regretting not have done it at A-Level or beyond. I knew i shouldn't have done history, but History was my default subject, it was the easy option, it didn't involve maths and was thus naturally not as challenging.

In the late 17th and early 18th century the 4d, 3d and 2d were general circulation coins. The penny was a bit different as it was used for maundy, it probably did circulate otherwise there'd be no point giving it out as maundy. By the mid 18th century i think the silver penny was too small really to be of much use as a circulation coin, and with silver gradually disappearing from circulation i think this coin shifted into purely maundy. Two halfpennies could make up the penny anyhow. By the late 18th century the copper pennies arrived (and twopences), which eliminated the twopence from circulation, the threepence and groat disappeard during George III's reign along with most of the other silver coins. I think 1800 being the last issue before the recoinage of 1816 would have seen those denominations swept under the carpet. By 1816 those four denominations were for maundy only.

Iron-y But you meant that all along... it just wanted to beat JMD at pointig it out.

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If the coin is really that colour i'd be worried...

Dunno what they'd be worth now, but back in 1997 i used to spend them as 50 pence. They've since been demonetised since the smaller ones were introduced. If they are in the best 'like new' condition with no real scratches or anything than maybe a quid or two each? Give or take. If they are a bit more battered then you can dispose of them. As a side note totally unrelated of course Apparently some vending machines take them as £2 coins...

Hmm hard to tell from the photo, but i think they may well be...

Hopefully ours will slide itself into the EM market and kinda phase out the competition.

Ten pages JMD!!! Ten... are they speaking to you? For hammered copper farthings there's at least another 3 A4 pages.

It's a book and it's a big A4 book... and it's, amazing? It certainly good for info... How many pages does it have on milled farthings Oli?

The info I am planning to be written by myself, but for the years in which maundy money was minted, I need a reference source! I'ver used Coincraft as the reference source for the price listings. There's no way i could remember all those from the top of my head and you'd have to use some reference for them. I've done the fourpences, the threepences are half done for you. The info, intro stuff i write myself, just like Oli is doing. I find one quick way of getting an intro without cribbing off of anyone is to just look at the coins, explain the appearance, whether it was struck regularly or irregularly, compare the regularity to the other denominations, if there is anything to note of special interest you'll see it. That way it'll be a totally original intro and not one pinched from another catalogue.

I'll write that JMD.

How's my stuff so far Chris, is i 'my own'? I'll get cracking on the Maundy for Oli then doing the lists for him... I don't mind doing those.

Excellent work!

Ah it's the imbreeding for you!

How are the farthings coming along then?

Yes and i've just finished the halfpenny list now, i'll email it to you.

I did it the other way around JMD, i was with Online coins before i found this place!

Where did you get that from about the farthings being demonetised in the 18th century?

We have rasist in this forum!!!! You said that last time.

Artificial Toning... Covers up the tell tale signs. Spot target toning in particular.

I have enough on with British without looking too far else... Although pre-19th century French coins have their appeal for me. I never really like Spanish coins.

Not sure what that coin is though, a stab in the dark Henry I?