Sylvester

I wonder if those air tight plastic coin capsules (a la proofs) will suffice for this?

Ah yes I'm a lurcher! you mean lurker?

Is he? I've never seen him on there before. i take it you missed my gold coin give away on coinpeople the other day then?

Is he? I've never seen him on there before. yep he his.

hey my mother got a nice change find the other day, a 1977 5p piece. Yep collecting from change is just that interesting! I've got some nice £2 coins out of circulation today too.

no i was just wondering what the was for?

well i suppose we'll soon see...

You never know Chris you never know! Maybe it's someone who's got some experience in the coin world and that was one of their early forgery attepts. Perhaps they are working on a whole load of fakes aimed at collectors. Proofs and whatnots, but perhaps they thought to try a few business strike ones first?

i a word, no. The only way to effectively change over is to introduce the coin and withdraw the bill. But they haven't done this, and unfortunately there are many people in the treasury department that are ardent dollar bill supporters. (they probably make a profit from it, as they usually have something to do with the federal reserve that prints the things). Also it's not uncommon for the seldom seen half-dollars to be mistaken by cashiers as dollar coins, even when the lettering states quite clearly 'half dollar'! how dumb could you get? Also having three 'circulating' types of dollar coin doesn't help. The big old ike dollar (size of a crown, last minted in the 70s) occasionally makes the rounds. The Susan B Anthony mini-dollar of 1979 onwards, and the golden sac dollars of 1999 onwards. The public are totally confused.

hmmm? Erm i just hada thought, i wonder if they were trying to pass the fake £2 coin off as a silver Proof? hence the gold coloured paint?

Can you imagine a £1 banknote! Or a £2 one for that matter.

Except the US of course! Who for some reason just won't let the dollar bill go. They've tried to reintroduce a dollar coin twice already but totally failed. And that's my two pence? dunno sounds odd, i don't use it myself but i do know it was common pre-decimal for people to say 'two penn'orth' (i.e two penny worth) at least where i live anyhow! I can't speak for the South!

Indeed Rendal Ingram sells them! You can buy blanks that are both parts and with the edge lettering/milling already done! But why the gold paint? If they hadn't done that then it might have passed as the real thing? (unless they were trying to hide something)

You know, i'm not actually sure, what i thought they had done was to mint the coin in cupro-nickel and to paint the outer part with gold paint. But looking at it, they might have gone the whole hog and actually produced a true bimetallic coin. I think they must have used some blank dies! Probably already had the edge lettering and milling? Although the D in shoulders looks poorly executed when compared to the real thing, but the rest are good!

HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE LINK ABOVE!

i could try for nothing, but that's what it might be for... NOTHING!

You should see the edge lettering! Fantastically crafted.

Yep! See here... http://www.coinpeople.com/forums/album_per....php?user_id=36 It's well labelled! See what you think, the scan didn't highlight the gold paint look quite as much, but the obverse lettering, particularly around the DEI bit...

Scarily well Chris, i notice it straight away because of the gold paint look rather than the brass look. The edge lettering is superb, the coin looks totally real apart from the weak struck obverse lettering, and the gold paint look. It was obvious to me, i knew what it was as she handed it over to me, but i was more interested in examining it thoroughly than refusing to accept it.

Also please be aware of the increasing number of £2 coin forgeries, it appears they are on the rise. I got one myself the other day.

Yes, I don't know if you know but it was Isaac Newton who said it. I think it was in a letter to Robert Hooke when he said "If I see further, it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants," Ineed it was, and Mr Newton was also behind the silver reconage of 1696 and the elimination of the hammered stuff. Also master of the mint for several years during Anne's reign. Very fitting i thought.

William, The first bit was German and asking for a cup of tea minus milk and sugar... The French bit was stating 'i don't speak French!' (in fluent French nonetheless!) Fun hey? Syl.

Oooh yes I'm sure loads of people would apprecate all those heavy coins jingling around in their pockets! Btw, they [the general public] probably wouldn't appreciate the sheer brilliance of the Gothic series. The £2 has become quite popular though, many people hoard them... I also think that that coin's design is also a work of brilliance, it's so well thought out and carries lots of historical meaning. I also like way the edge lettering 'standing on the shoulders of giants' stands upon the very edge of the brass ring, which stands on the achievement of all the others. Pure genius that coin. Pity about the obverse.

Here's a link to some photos of my Early Milled (EM) and some of my LM sixpences... arranged from newest to oldest. (They are scans and thus some of the scans don't do the coins justice...and in some cases [like the Edward VII one] this could be considered a good thing as it hides some of the ghastly toning). I would have posted them on here but the sheer amount would have Chris thinking i'm spamming the place, + it would take quite a while! http://www.numisaddict.com/showthread.php?...=&threadid=2310 Also Chris it'd be good advertising for you, if you were to post a message on the group in the link, as some of the collectors on there are interested in British coins. Perhaps we can win some more people over to the 'Darkside'...or so the US only collectors refer to it... Sylvester

It's a shilling!