Rob

I'll go 2-1 the other way. I'm not sure the politics of the game won't get in the way. Home nation has to be in the final etc. etc.

It is no good saying London rejected the motion, you have a vote and you live with the decision. If they want to stay in the EU, they are allowed to emigrate to Brussels and live there. Why do they conveniently forget the 17 million that voted the other way? It's alright saying London wants to be in the EU, but seem to forget that the rest of England and Wales thought differently. Also, a quick course in basic sums would help. The EU is only 7% of the world's population. The other 93% that this 'inclusive' bunch are trying not to engage with are clearly irrelevant. I blame it all on a dependency culture and the nanny state. Nobody says mea culpa any more and works to get themselves out of their own shit. And I would ban pink ties if I was in charge.

sometimes it is like the Marie Celeste on here. No rhyme or reason though. I think most of the 'guests' are bots

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Don't all shout at once. Interest in Coin News is distinctly lacking. However, if anyone wants any Coin News from the above list please let me know. Also, a new list of Coin Monthlies available. Most are in ok condition, but there are a couple of dogs which will go FOC if anyone needs them - and no, don't ask me to find the grotty ones specifically. I also have a couple of spare copies of the Yorkshire Numismatist, vol.,3 if anyone is interested. July 2016 Coin Monthly list.docx

Ah, but there's a bit of a difference between a British we'll win and a German we WILL win - trust me A bit like I'll do that later and find it has miraculously done itself in the interim.

I have been told that Germany will win, and she is rarely wrong.

4-2. Who's playing?

A picture of the actual coin would be of interest. See how close to the nearest millennium he is, then we can worry about the century. 3/1 its a wrl Elizabeth I?

If there was ever an odds on bet it is that political shocks arise because the ruling parties have left the electorate behind. If Brussels mandated a referendum on membership in each country I would be surprised to see at least one other leave. Sadly, I suspect that the only thing the EU will take from this is to ensure opinions are not sought through the ballot box as the results can be disruptive. Better not to involve the people.

Hopefully the US public will vote for the least bad option, but I wouldn't bet on it. One saving grace is that the Republican party are unlikely to unite behind him if he does win.

In that case I would like to acquire as many void notes as possible at a 90% discount to face and generate my own income for the cost of a ball-point pen. If am will to pay postage for delivering them to me.

The most comprehensive one is Spink's Coins of England. It includes a selection of varieties within types which other catalogues don't cover. e.g. Coin Yearbook starts with Roman, but the limitations are clear when it only gives a single price for say Henry I pennies when there are 15 classes for the reign and nearly an order of magnitude variation in prices within those 15. Spink also has its limitations, but is comprehensive enough to cater for anything other than specialist collectors of a particular area.

Happy birthday

Welcome back Debbie Not convinced about the love token description though.

Email received from no.1 son. Puts Yes, Minister to shame. From the Guardian I believe.... reposted on the FT So, let me get this straight... the leader of the opposition campaigned to stay but secretly wanted to leave, so his party held a non-binding vote to shame him into resigning so someone else could lead the campaign to ignore the result of the non-binding referendum which many people now think was just angry people trying to shame politicians into seeing they'd all done nothing to help them. Meanwhile, the man who campaigned to leave because he hoped losing would help him win the leadership of his party, accidentally won and ruined any chance of leading because the man who thought he couldn't lose, did - but resigned before actually doing the thing the vote had been about. The man who'd always thought he'd lead next, campaigned so badly that everyone thought he was lying when he said the economy would crash - and he was, but it did, but he's not resigned, but, like the man who lost and the man who won, also now can't become leader. Which means the woman who quietly campaigned to stay but always said she wanted to leave is likely to become leader instead. Which means she holds the same view as the leader of the opposition but for opposite reasons, but her party's view of this view is the opposite of the opposition's. And the opposition aren't yet opposing anything because the leader isn't listening to his party, who aren't listening to the country, who aren't listening to experts or possibly paying that much attention at all. However, none of their opponents actually want to be the one to do the thing that the vote was about, so there's not yet anything actually on the table to oppose anyway. And if no one ever does do the thing that most people asked them to do, it will be undemocratic and if any one ever does do it, it will be awful. Clear?

I would use that uplift wisely. The EU is not as robust as it would believe. What you can't control has the ability to destroy you and it is not in control of the destabilising mass immigration, nor does it have any desire to engage with any disaffected EU citizens and parties. Head in the sand attitudes usually result in a kick up the backside while you are bending over as this country's politicians found to their cost. On a lighter note, in Sunderland - from the BBC website.

Thanks chaps. A rather inauspicious start to the new reference having failed to make things clear on only the 3rd identification exercise. Must start collecting thrymsas with their somewhat simpler runic legends.

rock by the linear circle as ja, rock standing up to right of lighthouse as per k, rev m doesn't have either of these rocks showing in Gouby

Yes, but that makes the lighthouse wrong which is thinner than m and has distinctly separate rocks by the linear circle and standing proud to the RHS as per ja

Presumably this will come naturally to most people here, but what is the Gouby reverse for a narrow date 1876H? Reverse j says 1874 only, rev. m doesn't have the rock by the linear circle, nor the protruding one on the RHS. The trident is closer to the linear circle than the top of the P as for rev.k. The lighthouse looks like rev. ja, which is only for 1874,5,& 7, but Britannia's hair is in any case longer than for ja and more like j whilst the back of the helmet is more like ja as well. And one final question, who nicked rev. l? All this makes sense as a Freeman reverse K however. Ta.

Virtually nobody believes Germany would return to its military dominance, but it would be naive to suggest that they are not the strongest country economically and by extension the country with the largest responsibility to ensure stability within the EU. It needs to cast off its cloak of guilt and act as a true leader amongst equals. In Angela Merkel you've got the only true national Leader in the EU, and no, I don't believe for one minute that she is going to advocate invading Poland.

As ChKy said, politics is easy without people. After the Civil War we hadn't even got as far as Rotten Boroughs in terms of the electorate. Only declarations of war are sufficient to get politicians off their backsides without prevarication.

They said they were waiting for Cameron's successor to be chosen, which will happen in early September. A lot of balls in the air at the moment. As has been mentioned before, there is a chance of a second referendum, but it would have to be on somewhat different terms of reference to the one just passed because that ship has sailed. An EU style 'ask them again until you get the right answer' will not work and is only likely to harden resolve. All parties agree that a sensible compromise has to be reached in terms of our relationship going forward. You might hear the politicians playing hardball for their respective audiences, but economic reality will eventually give commerce a middle path. Ultimately all national politicians are on the receiving end of voter displeasure, even if the Commission is insulated from it, so if there is sufficient upheaval within a significant number of EU nations (which must include Germany as the de-facto leader of the EU), this would provide the stimulus for a change in Brussels. People in business and their markets don't like uncertainty, but will adapt to whatever situation is thrown up as has happened for millennia. As one businessman said to me before the referendum, we need to arrange currency cover going forward. Invoiced in dollars and holding pounds requires a hedge - we are traders, not speculators. And so the business was prepared for any fallout.

Yes. They were all used to fill empty boxes at the back of drawers. Circulation - not a chance.