Rob

It must happen occasionally, but I suspect that far more are lost due to their not having reached the desired price.

This has been discussed before. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/8777-lost-in-space/#entry103633 There are ways to apply a little pressure, and even if not ultimately successful you have have the pleasure of giving the guilty party an uncomfortable time. Some you win and some you lose, but unfortunately too many problem sellers are unwilling to accept the latter.

Probably the same numpty who is paying 55p approx to dispose of it.

If you take many types of coin you will often see more in museums than in private hands. e.g. the Langport I bought 3 months ago might be unique for now, but the mint is known for 60 or 70 coins. That there are only about 10 Langports in private hands is the number that affects the price collectors will pay. When I bought my Crewkerne, the catalogue mentioned the 29 known for the mint of which 17 were quatrefoils, but omitted to mention the considerably more important info that only a handful were available to collectors. Panic is only likely to be seen amongst some of those who do no research, but then, if they don't do research they are unlikely to know of the existence of a hoard. Chicken and egg. There are already thousands in institutions and similarly thousands in private hands. The 52000 Roman coins found near Frome were kept intact in a museum to name but one instance where the market was unaffected. It is reasonable to say that for the most part we already have a relative rarity index for type, mint or reign.

Not likely in my view because the BM or local museum are likely to take the hoard leaving the net increase of available material at zero. There are too many vested interests and mutual back scratchers to let the public get any spoils.

Like a tenner each? After all, there are thousands of them as this hoard proves, so not rare or desirable. They can make their case fairly easily for reducing the price paid. I too think the BM should only keep the things they don't have an example of. It would be a shame to have them locked away indefinitely from the public for viewing or the enthusiastic numismatist who would like to do the research the BM is unable to do due to lack of personnel. The problem is magnified by the provincial museums who also have a claim on finds, yet have even fewer resources to deal with hoards. Some museums don't even have a curator to look after the coins, so there is no chance of research/access/viewing of their collections.

Yes it does - thanks. Why would it work in different ways sometimes and not in others? Is there a set of universal instructions that work all of the time for simple actions like printing etc.? Sometime in the past, right clicking didn't work and someone suggested pressing control (forget for doing which function) and that worked in that instance. It used to be that you could print from the top line. The 3 line button is new to me. It's all far too confusing.

I'm still in firefox. Normally, I book a parcel online with parcel2go, interparcel or whoever is cheapest. After I have booked it, a page comes up allowing me to print off the shipping labels - except it doesn't now. Pressing that button just sends the file into the downloads whereas it used to open so that I could view it. Clicking on the download now goes to a grey page asking me to activate adobe (which I have done at least a dozen times tonight), but still doesn't seem to recognise I have done so. Clicking on allow now enables the page, but I still can't print - see above post. pdf files used to have a printer icon, but that has gone.

False alarm - still not working. I tried printing from the top bar (file drop down menu and print), but nothing happens. Chrome isn't an option as I want to send parcels out tomorrow and none of the kids will be around to install new software for a couple of weeks. A banging your head emoticon wouldn't help, but would make me feel better. For some reason, this wouldn't accept the printout I get using the three horizontal line button and the print icon which is as follows: Still won't. It is the file address of the download which won't enter as text for whatever reason, together with the date and time at the bottom. Only the useful bits are missing.

Thank you. I think we are working, just that clicking random buttons in the hope of solving a problem is like navigating in pea soup. I did avoid having the macafee downloaded which I recognise as a pain from the past.

Thanks Clive. That is in the right area, even if it hasn't solved it. Now I get a thing saying activate Adobe Acrobat (which I don't have). I'll have to find the setting which allows me to use the free version rather than waste a few hundred pounds on something I won't use.

Why, when I try to open a pdf document does mozilla open a minimum of 500 new tabs in rapid succession, but at no point show the document I am trying to download. The only way to stop it is to keep closing Mozilla until it gives up the ghost trying to open new tabs. I don't know the maximum number it opens before stopping of its own free will, but have noticed it seems to get a bit constipated after 500 new tabs (memory issue?). This is actually a serious inconvenience as I used to print off shipping labels for parcels shipped using a courier which were sent using pdf. Solution anybody, or even better an alternative that works. If it isn't possible to use pdfs any more so be it, then I will just have to move on and find something else. Thanks.

A happy start to the new year for me. We went for a walk along the Rochdale canal today, but the weather turned a bit wet. Thankfully my clothes hadn't dried out until every pump on the bar had been tested. Full marks to the Masons just outside Todmorden.

happy new year to all from me.

Couldn't agree more, regardless of denomination or year ... But it's what they go for! Is it any different to a two-pronged trident?I do confess it's not for me, unless I was close to gathering the whole series of something, and a particular coin got added into an addenda or revised edition of a book, or similar, as a definite type? But this wouldn't happen to me, as I have an interest in too many areas...fortunately! No, two-pronged tridents are just as silly. Unless it was engraved using a specifically intended two pronged trident, then it was just a defective tool. Although discussed before, this opens up a whole can of worms because you then have to consider the various development stages of the variety raising the salient point of when can a variety be said to exist? How do you price the intermediate stages and why are they so defined? Die fill and breakage are two continually evolving states which are virtually impossible to quantify until complete, or the die has fallen apart setting the maximum limit. I suspect the main driver for including a variety in a price list is the owner and definer of said variety.

This is where I've lost the plot. I would feel embarrassed asking for a higher price for a natural die degradation feature. Maybe a spectacular flaw would warrant a bit extra, but die fill? Or more accurately in this case, the removal of a bit of die within the 2. Crazy.

Does this filled 2 warrant a premium?

I reported it as a copy 6 days ago. Needless to say, nothing was done.

I don't think it is being shilled because it is way above what he would list it for in his trays.

Be careful what you do. When I got my last phone, I managed to run up an excess use bill of £30 over and above my 1Gb allowance despite not having used it. I got the kids to disable it, so no nasty surprises any more. The internet is useful, but not £30 a month plus whatever time you actually use useful. I might revert to a steam powered version when I get a new one.

The pre-union R&P issue crowns used a filled VIGO obverse die in some instances, though whether that die was also used for the rarer plumes issue is currently uncertain.

Presumably Santa has difficulty getting down the chimney on a barge? And certainly struggled to find a place to hide things.

It is now time to say Merry Christmas to all.

A few exceptions, but generally a really off die axis raises concerns about authenticity. The transposed French and Irish shields W3 1697 shilling has a 90 degree die axis, with only the French arms in the right place for a normal inverted die axis coin.