Rob

I'm not sure it is worth having the full English translation in the table given that you would never find a coin with translated legend. Commonwealth coins being in English require no translation. I usually sell early editions of North to detectorists. Cheap and cheerful as a reference, I think a net based one is less obviously useful in the field, and in the case of the link not particularly helpful when a high grade coin image would do a better job as you could actually see what was written.

The bits that stick are very resilient in my opinion. Having solidified on the rough surface they are quite stable. Yes you can remove them with a toothpick, but that's only because the wax is relatively soft. Most coins have survived a good few owners handling them. I have never seen a coin with wax which subsequently falls off.

But that was 3 hours and 4 or 5 posts between Peck's last visit and your reply. Still doesn't make sense unless you wrote it but didn't reply for a few hours..

Gone in a Flash, so to speak.

What?

"years of Issue 1929-1942" !! Should have gone to eBay. Could have got an example genuinely struck in 1929-1942 for £100.

If it is possible to make them think twice then anything to reduce the collateral damage is good. If PCGS can tell the owner it is not very sensible it would also help. There is a difference between removing finger grease and destroying historical evidence.

I just fired off an email to PCGS about it after running it past the diplomacy checker. God knows if they will pay any intention, but it might just possibly make someone think about the problem. Contents as follows: Dear Sirs, I have just noticed that the ‘environmental damage’ restoration service you offer on your European site has an issue. The image you show where you have removed wax adhering to the coin has the effect of immediately removing an identifiable link of the coin to a past sale. The wax is from a cast taken to illustrate the coin in the first half of the last century or possibly even earlier.Sometimes that wax can be identified from the images in the catalogue and so a provenance established for the coin.That provenance could potentially greatly enhance the value of the coin in question as it may well provide links going back to the 19th or even the 18th century depending on the previous owner(s).The presence of wax is the only indicator with the coin in hand that it was illustrated in the past and so enhances the chances of finding it in a past catalogue.The continued presence of wax is important as one of the main pieces of evidence we have regarding a coin’s past and by extension its authenticity.Retaining wax will show the expertise of PCGS in assigning the correct provenance where possible and further shows that PCGS appreciates its significance.Thank you. Yours sincerely Rob Pearce

There is a bigger issue here concerning the destruction of historical evidence and the heritage of the coin in question.

Yeh, right.

Ever the contrarian and in an effort to help the wife list items fee free, I opened an account a couple of days ago to start selling. Boo, hiss I hear you say. It's absolute bollocks. Having got my 20 free listings lined up, I find I'm limited to 10 items or £650 in sales per month. Given the historical baggage with eBay and Paypoo, I'm not going to list a £650 item as a new seller in case they try to hold on to my money indefinitely, so it's going to be 99p items all the way as I do acknowledge Ebay being the ideal channel to offload shi*e. Given a typical succes rate of 5% of items listed, that means a sale every 2 months or 20 months at least to reach the minimum 'acceptable seller' level of 10 feedbacks. I don't think they are going to get rich quick off my efforts, and I don't think my wife is going to be too happy at the inroads I won't be making into the pile of 25000 coins looking for a home. My crystal ball suggests a bit of earache. Joking aside, this new fee structure combined with the difficulty for new sellers to get established has to have a profound effect on the number of listings and the number of sellers. I can't help thinking they are going to have another go at tweaking the system in six months. I also think this will result long term in the repositioning of eBay as an online shop in competition with Amazon rather than an auction site. Established 'business' sellers have shops while occasional private sellers can list items. It won't be as good as Amazon where you can list a book and leave it indefinitely, but I can certainly see a parallel business model for the two companies.

Another provenance gone down the Swanee. No time now to find the coin, and the image, and make a note of the slab number to retain the info. It will be too much to hope that any former owner will be mentioned on the slab, and even if it is there's less chance that it is correct. One can only hope that nobody from a TPG ever gets a job at a museum, otherwise all history will be eradicated prior to the date of their appointment. Are PCGS offering this as a promotional piece, because if they are it might just be possible to get them to add a rider that cleaning wax off a coin destroys any hope of finding a provenance in the future? That would have some measurable effect on the degree of cleaning because not everyone is a ****.

Is that from a so-called 'basement slabber'? What? Multiple Sellars (sic) - 62 off . Sorry,I'll get my coat.

That's the one. I couldn't find the back issue to check the detail. Stranger than fiction.

A majority of the English coins have this bidder. the other one is s***a. Probably both shills because I can't imagine anyone actually wanting many of the pieces on offer.

Must remember to check in Private Eye's 'Funny Old World' to see if they picked up on it. There's nowt so strange as folk. That's better than the one they had a short time ago about the guy in Harlow who went shopping in the local supermarket dressed in full nazi regalia claiming it helped him to overcome his mental health problems after he had a vasectomy in 2006. The cartoon of Hitler goose-stepping with a shopping basket was very well done.

It's a statistic. Nuff said.

I'll dig out all the last issue 3d and 6d images I can find and send the lot. You can then decide what you want.

Bad news. They are all over the show. large ones for 1935, small before and after, but some 1936s have a larger 9 than others and the acorns point differently across the dates. Do you want half a dozen images?

I thought I had answered that in the post above. I have had 2 large and 1 small all dated 1935. My original post referred to threepences, not sixpences, so which denomination were your 2 large and 1 small describing? Sorry, hadn't registered the changeover from threepences. Better do some more digging.

I thought I had answered that in the post above. I have had 2 large and 1 small all dated 1935.

You just don't do irony, do you Rob Just to clarify : CCGB has this coin at £150 in UNC which seems about right. Spink, as so often, are ridiculously overstating the value. People are bidding up to that level at auction though, so I'm not sure that it is necessarily OTT. Whilst I agree Spink are overpriced on the lower grades, I'm not so sure they are for nice pieces.

Annnnnnd here's the second hahaha. I'm not sure she's from 1877 though... Link And I just saw someone's bid on it I'd get a clip round the ear if I called the wife one of those. 1877 is a bit optimistic looking at the seller id. valerievalerie was born in 1066.

That's Derek's listing (Red Riley on this forum). As Nordle said, it really depends on what grade you want to collect as to whether you bid. Coins 'speak' to you when they are attractive in your eyes so that you might accept a lower grade piece when it has a lot of eye appeal.

It doesn't profess to be a proof. PCGS have assigned it MS64, not PR64. Spink UNC for a currency piece is £225, proof FDC is £1250.