Rob

Depends on the person who has lost it for you. A lot of things don't arrive because they fail to make the expected/desired price. If the person selling has a history of losing items, call their bluff - it has worked for me in the past. In cases where there is no proof of posting, I did it by suggesting that they look a bit harder for the coin and in return, I won't leave feedback. As long as he has proof of posting, then it absolves him of being the reason it is lost. I've had things go missing in the post from a proper auctioneer where I've been paid out, but asked if I still wanted it when it was returned to them half a year later. So technically not my property any more, but it did no harm to ask me the question. There are no rules, though I suspect that it goes along the lines of insurance. i.e. the insurance company owns any recoveries.

Give me a clue please. That's all there is to go on.

Dazzling.

The salvage from the Association was sold over 9 or 10 sales plus there was a lot of material that was sold elsewhere. You might be lucky to find it illustrated as the coin is one of the better ones. The Scottish unite might be illustrated, but if from a detector find is unlikely, unless recent.

The whole date looks to be in a different font. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=1822+crown&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=iLBDU8WKG8Ld7QaxzID4Ag&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&biw=1920&bih=914#facrc=_&imgrc=WaXDXdcGBLhIRM%253A%3Bk9KcpLiKbKbaWM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk%252Fpics%252Fg4%252F5s%252F5s22s.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk%252Fpics%252F5s.html%3B600%3B300

Hi All. I'm looking for a decent image of a P2135 pattern penny to overlay on the piece below. When Shorthouse made a few restrikes of Moore's other patterns (cf. P2099-2134) in 1886, the die for the P2135 was missing. I think that the reason for this was the coin below which may have a trace of the original final A in GRATIA between the B & R of BRITT and almost certainly has used the same diademed bust punch. The coin in question is the one with this bust, but the legend is different. If anyone can supply a decent image of the normal coin it would be appreciated. Thanks.

Yep, that's a dud. There are no George IV crowns with a milled edge, only with raised letters. The figure 2 is all wrong as well. You may also find the weight is only about 22-23g if it has been made from white metal.

I like to think that the average Englishman doesn't give a tinkers dam either way, I know I don't. I was hoping that I could just sit on the sideline and throw in the occassional bone to see the fur fly. What has dissapointed me is how mild mannered this discussion has been. Probably because the benefits, perceived or otherwise, are irrelevant in the overall scheme of things. A bit like the Irish question. A unified Ireland would still be subservient to Brussels. The right to self-determine what exactly? Any right a country may have to set its own course and live or die by its decisions will be far outweighed by the potential for the governing bodies higher up the food chain to bu**er things up. Brussels will determine Scotland's future whether in the EU or outside it, just as it currently does.

Yes, but it is appropriately from Clowne. So someone may have a sense of humour.

Whilst on the subject of coins with a dubious pedigree, earlier this week I was asked if I wanted a few odds and sods. In them was a not very good 1893 JH 6d, so I was naturally interested. However, my initial enthusiasm diminished when upon asking if there was anything else for sale, was told yes - these included a Northumberland shilling and a G3 crown. Images showed both to be copies, so I interpreted the 1893 6d as a copy that had been beaten up to make it look real. You couldn't tell if it was cast from the image, but the chances were high. Caveat emptor.

You could always ask Steve Lockett if their records agree. If they have pictures it would be better still.

Just looks to be weak. Not worth a premium anyway.

All these arguments about independence for whatever country it is ignore the fact that all 'developed' societies live beyond their means. They got there by exploiting the under-developed nations. Eventually the wheels are going to come off the bus for everyone. There are too many people on the planet and we produce goods too efficiently for the status quo to be maintained. In the long term, earth will be ok - humans I'm not so sure about.

Have you seen their audited accounts? If not I recommend you don't bid any higher as you could leave yourself exposed to unquantifiable liabilities. Caveat emptor, and all that.

hystorical, historical or hysterical?

The description is somewhat more honest than the title.

3 of my last 30 purchases have been modern c**p.

Sounds about right. There are more bamarked unc coins than unmarked ones. The bigger the coin the more there are likely to be

I find the coin to be very attractive -- I might be a buyer for £3500 on a "wild day" -- but £4800 is a bit on the "crazy" side. Oh well...to each his/her own. I don't doubt for one second that someone will buy it at this level either -- CRO has a religious following of people with more money than gray matter. If that's what the exchange rate is then £3K would be about right.

Abjectly original sounds like they are disappointed it hasn't been AT'd. Maybe they could spend the profits on a thesaurus. Nice coin, but a bit overpriced. Maybe £1000-1200 less and it would be worth the money.

It's a difficult one to call. Scotland has a greater %age of government handouts than England so there would be less drain on finances as a result. England wouldn't get the oil revenues, but would retain the gas ones roughly speaking. The practicalities are more problematic than the posturing. The banking system will be in a greater mess than it is now. Plus, if Scotland gets independence then Labour would lose its benficial skew to the voting system in Westminster which would definitely help England's finances longterm as it is doubtful they could form a government, let alone spend taxpayers money in a carefree manner as they are currently wont to do. The cost of politics won't reduce as there are too many vested interests in every country to maintain the gravy train that is political favour. My son is looking forward to a border at Gretna as it makes it easier for him to spend days out the country.

Doesn't makes sense for him to resign unless he wants to wash his hands of the whole affair after he's bu**ered up the Union. 4 million Polish immigrants? They'll soon be the majority ethnic block in Scotland at that rate. Scotland will be a nation of plumbers - useful for curing the financial leakage.

Wot. You mean his position would be untenable? So he's just campaigning on behalf of Sean Connery?

Blimey, where do you live?....I'll have a dozen.... Oop north. In the land that is foreign to anyone south of the Watford Gap. A divided country - people in the south-east seem to be oblivious to the rest of the country, people up north can't afford to move down south. That's why so many commute from as far away as the north-east by train into London. A season ticket to London is probably cheaper than the cost of a mortgage - maybe someone knows?

Any incorporated foreign object would be random, any die distress will have multiple examples.