Rob

On the plus side, I made a profit from the DNW sales, so more money to spend next week. Income exceeded expenditure, mainly due to my refusal to open the wallet regardless of the cost, but I can see next week negating that problem.

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Absolutely, you don't see those on the bay too often! In fact, I haven't seen one yet...top spot! I'm guessing he didn't list it as such?Yes, it was listed as such. Soon after Christmas/New Year, people back to work and skint. So few buyers around. Obverse

Now THAT's a proper unrecorded variety!It went to a guy in our club who collects only Elizabeth 1st. As his conventional wants list is the size of a postage stamp, he appreciates the oddball things,

You get quite a few lis shillings cropping up on ebay. 8 or 9 years I picked up a 1B wireline which was essentially unworn though did have a crease from the spade - £130 on a midweek lunchtime was a no brainer.

Sixpences are the best denomination for misprunts.I had a LEIZABETH last year.

The danger of purchasing bread and butter is that it might not sell, then you get depressed just looking at it. It isn't only the top end where people are selective. Some of the real dross is unmarketable to anybody, such as a fine or a bit better 20th century piece or a common date bun head which is well nigh impossible to dispose of other than at the scrapyard. It is often more cost effective to melt silver that is post 1816 in low grade than it is to try to sell it - rare pieces excepted, but also very difficult to pick up things at less than scrap value in order to make a profit.

If you think DNW was excessive at times, you should see the current CNG sale prices.

It was illustrated in Clarke-Thornhill and Gantz and C-T bought Thorburn 225. I'll have a cursory look for the 1E when I've tiime

Its not the auction prices, its the quality of the coins. Since i've been looking through auctions and paying more Attention to Hammered, i've not seen so mamy nice Chas I coinage in one place at the same time and i think the bidders think the same and also think how Long will it be before something like this come along again, hence you can Throw your books out of the wimdow and Run with the pack if you really want something It is true in part, but probably more important is the fact that the material hasn't been in the market for over half a century. Collectors like fresh material. e.g. the Briot halfcrown I wanted but didn't get was ex-Thorburn 225 (Soth 1918), Clarke-Thornhill 488 (Glens 1937) and Gantz 1305 (Glens 1941). Described as especially nice in 1918, and a beautiful example in 1937 & 1941 coupled with the first being underlined in both Spink and Bladwin's catalogues suggested it was worth buying. Unusually for the second issue, it was illustrated in the two Glens sales. The really nice round Bristol halfcrown (lot 53) which cost the buyer £7500!!! was ex Hamilton-Smith 1927 lot 318 and again illustrated. Bristol halfcrowns were rarely illustrated, so again a flag saying 'Buy Me' was waving. You are correct in saying the book has to go out of the window, but even so, by any standards today was brutal.

I thought it was an agreed done deal. Be interesting to see how the personnel situation pans out. Is Richard Gladdle going to be in overall charge? Are the staff all going to be happy? Have SG entered the market at the wrong time again?

I didn't get anything, and I was looking at some relatively unpopular items apart from the Briot above. A 3/- bank token hammering at 480. Usually you can't give them away. No chance of buying for resale, as many things hammered at more than you could ask. Then there's the premium etc to consider. Be interesting to see waht happens tomorrow. DNW could well be similar, and advance bidding on CNG means prices are already stratospheric on some lots.

Makes you wonder why they made and stockpiled Charles I halfpennies at the Tower from 1577 onwards until required 50 years later, but then subsequently produced Elizabethan halfpennies in the intervening 6th and 7th issue periods, not to mention the issues during the reign of James 1st. It also isn't only sloppy listing. Someone has gone out of their way to write a load of spiel about the coin which is patently wrong ie. they weren't striking halfpennies in 1577. If you are going to write crap, it should at least be plausible with a potential match to the historical evidence. Well done Saxby's.

Just keep on drip feeding the collection. Nobody will time the market perfectly. Some will be overpaid and others bought cheaply, but more importantly you have fulfilled your collecting desires.

My wallet has emerged unscathed so far. Wow. I wanted the Briot hammered halfcrown, but wasn't willing to pay nearly £5K. I thought 3 was pushing the boat out.

This happens on a regular basis, so yes, there are bargains to be had because half the US collectors won't go near it, relying on the 'superior knowledge' of the TPG.

If you look at the prices asked for GCS slabbed coins, they are invariably multiples of the raw coin price. I think they are just trying to emulate the US market where a premium is the norm for a label. Nobody is forced to buy though. As an aside, I also see that the US TPGs seem to have lost the plot a bit more. Baldwins sale next week has a Richard II noble (lot 4322). PCGS have given it AU58. Steve Hill, who usually pushes every last drop of grade on his listings has given it good fine! Goldbergs next sale has an 1812 1/6d bank token (lot 4338) which I threw out of my collection due to the wear to the high points and sold as a nearly gEF has come back as NGC MS66!!

My eyes are dim, I cannot see....Ooooh

That'll be a seat for two in the 3rd row then. I'm hoping to be impoverished tomorrow, fingers crossed.

Get your ME on a 1927 for £30-50, then you have a lot of spare change to buy other things.

'Stylised A' mintmark on this fine detailed VF obverse! Saxby's has always been a byword for things to avoid IMHO. Thankfully the listings always used to be obvious and so easily avoided. Not looked recently though. I'll have a few Matildas if you don't mind. Well, maybe not. They always list continental hammered coins as "British found" which was fine, until their eBay feedback showed bulk purchases of coins from the continent... So basically they sell things - not sure what, that were purchased in a far away land called Britain - not. Yet another ebay seller with a compromised moral compass. They are either ignorant of what they're selling , or someone is trying to pull a fast one. Given nobody in business owns up to being in the dark about their chosen field nor should they be, it's a bit self incriminating.

'Stylised A' mintmark on this fine detailed VF obverse! Saxby's has always been a byword for things to avoid IMHO. Thankfully the listings always used to be obvious and so easily avoided. Not looked recently though. I'll have a few Matildas if you don't mind. Well, maybe not.

Better list the trays, otherwise any buyer might find his/her coins don't fit.

That's what I use. It doesn't matter as long as it is searchable. There is a limit to the number of things you want to search, so keep some of the info off the sheet in a separate file dedicated to that coin.

Not popular. There is too much large and interesting Chas 1 material for the small things to get much attention.