Rob

Christ! Were they making these back then? In that case the Royal Mint was a few hundred years too late getting its own version to market - but then institutions are always reluctant to change. I hope Seuk is going to reappraise the dates of his forgeries.

What? Warwick and Warwick?

Nope, not me.

Busy man. Now we know where you get it from.

I don't have one.

What wrong with a shilling or sixpence. They are more common than imitation guineas. Bugger, you beat me to it.

That's been horribly polished. Ask them to pay you to accept it.

Not dissimilar to myself, this evening! Cooked red lentils, boiled potatoes, shredded and blanched spring greens, fried onion and garlic, chives, and lots of cheddar, all mixed together and baked in a pastry pie! Served with corn on the cob, coleslaw, and a fresh salad! Got it cold tomorrow with pickled onions and cherry tomatoes (plus some homemade scrumpy, which is being delivered to the door at 12)! So how do you reconcile the living floaters with your vegetarian habits? Beer ought to cause a problem too given the use of finings. I take a rather more pragmatic view of food. Everything goes in and nature decides if it is useful or not.

The estimate on the Exeter D30 crown was halved on the day with a saleroom notice because it was plugged at 6 o'clock. It might be done very well, but once known gives the seller an uphill battle to raise the price buyers are prepared to pay. What was the original estimate Rob? £600-800 reduced to £300-350

I'll throw in a full stop for free. £7.75

I'll second that. In the mid 80s, my wife and I were passing through Hong Kong and obviously had to eat. We decided to try pot luck in a back street eatery with no English menus. We pointed at the two trees and the lean-to privy in the menu and waited to see what arrived. My sour pork was all right, but she wasn't amused with her chicken gizzards. I had two meals.

The estimate on the Exeter D30 crown was halved on the day with a saleroom notice because it was plugged at 6 o'clock. It might be done very well, but once known gives the seller an uphill battle to raise the price buyers are prepared to pay.

I told this guy that the WRL indicated it was a modern copy. Result - a fuzzy picture has replaced the old to ensure it can't be seen. The 'guinea' listed is a shilling, which he confirmed from the diameter. Neither has been updated and clearly he has no intention of changing the description. If Colin G is looking, please would he pay the guy a visit and smack 7 shades out of him, or explain in a similarly appropriate manner. Eliz 1 6d

Your coin has too many tiny blemishes. The grade also looks a bit worse to my mind with the flat hair, though I can see a dig on the cheek of the DNW coin. I wouldn't pay £1800 hammer for it, but then I wouldn't spend nearly £800 on your coin either, preferring to spend that sort of money on a really nice cheaper date when it eventually comes along.

I'd say yes. I was thinking about bidding on that one depending on what happened to the 1800 half, but the former went to £2500 and then the front doorbell rang.

You should have bought the previous lot - much nicer. And more expensive, i did'nt have any intention of buying a Northumberland, it was'nt on the cards at all. I still don't knowi if i got it or not, results say i did but looking at what i won says i did'nt. I also got lot 341 The latter was plugged, so probably not a lot to be made there. Plugged things have to be either super-rare or £1 shop cheap. I got a few things in the Ed.IV-Henry VIII period. 174 was the York groat with the lis over crown on the reverse. I'm hoping that can be shown to be a London die recut. Never seen the overmark before. I also got the Abp Warham groats lot 186 and some small odds and sods. Spink is potentially looking a bit more productive, assuming I haven't spent up at Harrogate this Friday.

You should have bought the previous lot - much nicer.

The so called 'cartwheel' effect is given to the iridescence seen on original surfaces. Cleaned coins will never have this.

Probably cleaned. It doesn't look very good blown up.

Why? Perhaps you should have bought her one too - just a thought.

Doesn't get any better. Hi. You simply don't get it do you? Your listing says do not make offers off ebay i go buy ebay policy and only sell on line . I will not answer any emails that are bullying me to get it cheaper. I will send the information to the buyer where it was brought, i described it as in the auction i brought it from they have handled the coin too ! i will get a copy from the auction house if requested for the buyer . if the buyer is not happy i will except a return if not as described i will send futher information only to the bidders not people got nothing better to do then second guess something they have not handled or want try get cheaper ! No collector is going to make you a serious offer for a modern copy as no collector is likely to want it (certainly not at £30+ when you can buy them for £1), but most collectors also do not like to be taken for a ride, nor for other innocent people to be taken for a ride. However, since you were informed it is a copy, you have updated the image to a fuzzy one so that the WRL is not visible. This is an undisguised fraudulent action under the sale of goods act and therefore a criminal offence. If there is a problem with the item, you have a case against the seller. You do not have the right to steal money from an innocent buyer. I note you posted the question regarding the diameter. How about posting to the effect that its authenticity has been called into question? If you would do the honourable thing and either advertise it as a copy or end the listing and re-advertise it as a modern copy, then everyone would be happy. Nobody is against copies being listed if advertised as such. The same goes for your 'guinea'. You have been told it is a brass forgery and even what reference it has. You told me it is a shilling size too, so you cannot claim ignorance. As the guinea was last struck in 1813, this is also problematic for your argument. I therefore ask you to remove the two items and relist them with the proper description. (you do not know me so do not judge me i have been nursing for 40 years i have never done anything dishonest but i meet many dishonest poeple i rang up ebay i was advised to relist the coin as i had conflicking views regarding coin dealers and pornbokers they buy coins of poeple as cheap as possible i brought coins in a auction secondly my son took the photos so why say i did the photo on purpose that way you are making slander remarks which is incorrect i tried my best to describe the item i even offered a full refund if not happy if you a coin dealer if i took a coin to y0u for £300 i bet i be lucky to get £50.00 of you i have not if anyone is dishonest it the auction as i getting it checked tomorrow so i have the auction back me up so if someone tells you the world ends tomorrow you beleve them well it not brass) sic The brackets are mine. Might have a word with with one of those pornbrokers - if they are genuine.

Is there any way to explain to ebay what he is doing? All I could find was a list of options, none of which were appropriate. The communications went as follows. This is a modern copy. The WRL under the shield stands for Westair Reproductions Ltd. Value? £1 if you are lucky. WELL i brought it with the gold gunnia is that okay if not i been ripped of buy a top auction That isn't a guinea. It's a sixpence or a shilling depending on diameter. Shillings are about 24mm its a shilling then Allowing for a reasonable interpretation of the replies, I believe he is fully aware of what he is doing.

Talented coin

So they acknowledge the existence of Cabinet Friction, they just mark it down for wear, which we all would do! Can anyone further clarify the 6 thing as, comparing Paul's to Rob's, it isn't leaping out at me? Nor me. The most obvious thing to my eyes is the broadening of detail arising from the cast made. If any imperfections are tooled out in the resulting cast, the detail would broaden further.

Comparing Paulus' with one that predates the Chinese pieces, the most striking thing is the porosity seen on the modern copy. Another consistent factor is 'bulkiness' of the characters, crown jewels and pearls and the lack of any 3D relief on the tops of letter. The border teeth are usually a bit indistinct on the copies too. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l530/paul_whittingham/1763_Shilling_Rev03_zpsed292dc0.png