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1898 half sovereign (I think)
Rob replied to pashazade's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Indeed. The link works only for those with a Gmail account or the like. You don't need a Google account to view the pictures. You can use your own email address to login in. Doesn't work - my email address isn't a Gmail address. Nor is mine. It's a btopenworld address, not even a btinternet one. -
1898 half sovereign (I think)
Rob replied to pashazade's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Looks like it. The diameter of 17.5mm is slightly too small though - should be 19. I assume the ruler is nearer the camera than the coin, hence the discrepancy. -
I had mentally corrected the list you put up and was looking for images of each obv & rev. Now the errors are put into perspective it is clear that you can refine the pairs to six categories as follows- obverse/reverse obverse/obverse reverse/reverse obverse uniface reverse uniface blank metal disc The last is the commonest variety.
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Many thanks for doing the spadework. Our daughter has just informed us that we have two extras for Christmas dinner who are doing the same on-call shifts as she is- one Omani muslim and an Indian vegetarian Double pigs in blankets all round. I've been told my next task is not to do a 'Duke of Edinburgh' Merry Christmas everyone. Hah, send them down to us, I'm making a warm-spiced nut roast, wrapped in plaited puff pastry, even as I write! I take it she's a health professional? They are all doctors. Best call of the season. Resuscitation on tap while we keep on drinking and they can't.
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Many thanks for doing the spadework. Our daughter has just informed us that we have two extras for Christmas dinner who are doing the same on-call shifts as she is- one Omani muslim and an Indian vegetarian Double pigs in blankets all round. I've been told my next task is not to do a 'Duke of Edinburgh' Merry Christmas everyone.
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Spink Auction lot lookup please
Rob replied to Nick's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
The first one is a pair of sixpences 1844 large 44 toned unc and an 1884 EF. Sale A9040? Obviously it is 2009, but isn't one of the four London Coin sales. Was it a foreign sale towards the end of the year? Can these be accessed via the website archive? The 8 refers to 2008 and then the sales are numbered incrementally throughout the year. It is the A prefix that doesn't make sense. -
Unquestionably. He has put through a load of hammered forgeries this year. His current James 1st shilling looks suspect too, irrespective of the weight given.
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Spam email apologies
Rob replied to TomGoodheart's topic in Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!
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3/4 Facing Edward VI H.D.G Penny (H8 Bust)
Rob replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
BNJ vol. XXVI pt.III (1951) plate XXII no.13 Thanks, Rob! Haven't spoke in a while...Compliments of the season to you! Advert looks good, was there an extra premium for being in the first couple of turns? Thanks Stuart. No premium, just pot luck where it went. -
Why don't you take something that has been previously graded by either NGC or PCGS whether cracked out or not? It gives you a ballpark for what it will grade. There is no shortage of overgraded material but a fair smattering of undergraded stuff too. Better still, go for a mis-attribution and crack it out, as the TPG will have virtually guaranteed you the discount to book you need.
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3/4 Facing Edward VI H.D.G Penny (H8 Bust)
Rob replied to Coinery's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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It could all go horribly wrong. Disregarding the shite on the scanner bed, consider the story of the P1235 copper proof halfpenny below. This used to be in my collection and I sold it to Hus six years ago only to buy it back again later. I then sold it to a member of the PCGS forum who was looking for an example. I was confident it would grade well, but it came back as MS62 although it had no wear, digs or hairlines. They couldn't even identify it as a proof despite Peck devoting over a full page to the description in his book. It is as you say a lottery, and certainly doesn't inspire confidence. It's fair to say that I would happily buy this at MS62 prices any day of the week, given the obligatory alignment of number and price when it comes to slabs.
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I bought a George III pattern halfpenny off a US collector which was slabbed PF61 and a label attached saying it was recommended for 'conservation'. I also have another coin of the same type which was in a PF65 slab as sold in the 'Cheshire Collection'. This was squeaky clean and probably too clean for its age. The lower graded coin had the more original surface in my opinion, and there was no real difference in the marks or strike quality. I would go so far as to say that the lower grade coin was marked down on the grounds that it hadn't been 'conserved'/cleaned/choose you own term. 4 points of difference is a huge margin when there is nothing wrong with the metal fabric of either coin. It is as you say, a lottery.
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Sorry, tell a lie. It is MS67 after all ~ was looking at the wrong bit. The right one is here Extraordinary. And it's sitting at $625 thats 385 GBP crazy coin world I'd have said £300 absolute tops, and even that would be generous given its appearance!!! Clearly a business opportunity. Buy any unattractive big numbered slab at fair value and consign via Heritage. Could work wonders for the UK's balance of payments. On the question of the grade though, I still wonder how they get to MS67 with the obvious rim mark. The coin isn't heavy enough to have suffered the defect falling into the hopper. It has to be post Mint damage.
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Surely you mean Oops? oRb
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5 old british coins to ID please
Rob replied to Phil FK's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
1. No idea 2. 1806 Farthing 3. No idea 4. 1797 Soho penny 5. 1890 crown -
or Chinese? Two identical flat spots could be a coincidence, but a larger number of these would imply as struck characteristics. Best thing would be to look for these in their original box as few sets will have been made up in recent times, thus eliminating recent copies.
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You are still reliant on the underlying metal being Iron, Nickel or Cobalt though, as these are the three magnetic elements. I wouldn't work for tin, copper or lead which are the usual metals used in debased coinage.
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Totally drab as said previously. If a cast, then the edge would probably be plain, and/or there would have to be the remains of the sprue. If you can add the edge reading to a coin, I think it unlikely to be a cast.
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Most VIP proofs wouldn't cost any more than a common uncirculated larger silver Victorian coin - say £500 to a couple £K, so we aren't talking megabucks here. In fact a lot of people are prepared to spend far more on currency coins than they would have to lay out for a VIP proof, particularly in the penny department. When you say pennies, Rob, I can't think of any dates where a VIP proof would be worth less than a currency coin. Unless I'm misunderstanding you? I took Rob to mean that a high grade Victorian currency coin (e.g. large silver) would be more popular and collectable than a 20th Century VIP proof. And that people would rather spend out on a currency penny than a VIP proof (not the same date). Correct
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It may work in the US, but ultimately the local content is too high to appeal to a wider audience and most collectors of coins tend to restrict themselves to official offerings from the state mints. These previously respectable institutions are now hell-bent on raising revenue by selling commemoratives to the wider public rather than restricting themselves to providing liquidity to the nation(s)which is the reason for their existence. This diarrhoeic output turns off most collectors and as a result most commemorative output from both mint and private enterprises (which are on the same level) are lumped together as novelty items. I'm sure there will be people who are temporarily interested in such items, but would be amazed if there were many long term collectors. A large part of the problem is the need for volume sales which immediately diminishes the desirability for the items as if supplies run out, more can be made. If you want to collect these items, feel free to do so. Do not expect to make sales though. Collectors collect, but rarely as a result of marketing. I forecast you will join a lengthy list of vendors where the typical response is one of complete anathema.
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Most VIP proofs wouldn't cost any more than a common uncirculated larger silver Victorian coin - say £500 to a couple £K, so we aren't talking megabucks here. In fact a lot of people are prepared to spend far more on currency coins than they would have to lay out for a VIP proof, particularly in the penny department.
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Scarce 1964 sixpence
Rob replied to Gary1000's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
If someone can find 4 examples in a casual search albeit at a specific location, a little patience should be rewarded with a decent example. The biggest obstacle may well be that it typically isn't worth listing a 1964 or 1965 sixpence.