Rob

Not sure what you're looking at? the 2 and 6? I'd say good honest wear in the 1st picture Worn die/worn coin. It isn't 6/2 if that is what you were hoping.

peanuts

They are modern concoctions, make no claims to be fakes, or genuine. They are just a pair of obverses and reverses combined to provide gullible consumers with something that they won't be able to sell easily in the future. The 1823 obverse doesn't even look real. Pence, not pounds should be the real price and I would recommend you avoid them. The 1823 'coin' went for £103, incredible!! What's going on there I ask!! Greed and ignorance presumably.

You could never accuse him of lying. MONEY WELL SPENT - WILL RETAIN VALUE AS TIME PASSES! MOST COINS SELL FOR THE STARTING PRICE SO IF YOU LIKE THIS COIN PLACE A BID - THERE'S A GREAT CHANCE YOU WILL WIN! Well, ........ apart from the misrepresentative id - mintstate17

Don't know of one, that's why I'm asking.

Looks normal to me.

Thankfully they don't ship outside the US or take Paypal from non-US accounts. Every cloud has a silver lining.

They definitely adopted the right one.

Depends on what they are made of, what condition they are in and how valuable they are.

Another quality item from mintstate17!!!!!!!!!!!! Not.

You and me both. I wrote up the coin reference file using the description of a submerged swimmer as seen in the hand without looking at any other images. I just assumed the crappy design clarity was considered contemporary excellence. That's a sad reflection of perceived quality when you expect a design to be abstract and only vaguely representative of the subject matter. Still no takers on the last time an unadopted design was inadvertently adopted?

A question to be asked is when was the last incorrectly rendered design issued by the RM? Spelling mistakes in the legend are common enough, but to actually release the wrong design into circulation may be a first. The withdrawn 1887 sixpences were due to confusion with half sovereigns. The 2008 20p and the 1983 2 NEW PENCE pieces were mules with an obsolete design and so don't count. I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head. Clearly they had to reduce the lined design down to the correct size, so you would have thought someone would have noticed unless there were 2 prospective designs, only one of which was adopted. I think there may be more to this than meets the eye.

It appears I've got one of them too. I have to confess being underwhelmed with the series and hadn't even bothered looking.

I dont remember bidding on that one although the words 'silver' and 'halfpenny' in a description would have tickled my fancy had I seen it! Aug 2006... just after I finished at Bolton Street... probably could have afforded £100 then as well! However, I assume this isnt what it went for?! Still, having recently purchased a 1983 Unc set with the 2p mule (unfortunately the seller did know what they had ), perhaps my budget limits aren't as tight as I thought they were! Well, you pushed the boat out for the second listing. The first time it was listed and shilled, you bid £75 and the shill won it for £365. In the second listing I bought it for £370 which was a bit under what I would have paid at Baldwins. First time round on ebay I bid £355, which makes me wonder whether the other bidder had noted my statement that I was going to bid the same again as this person bid £360 and the shill bid £356. Questions, questions. So many unknowns.

They are modern concoctions, make no claims to be fakes, or genuine. They are just a pair of obverses and reverses combined to provide gullible consumers with something that they won't be able to sell easily in the future. The 1823 obverse doesn't even look real. Pence, not pounds should be the real price and I would recommend you avoid them.

Where did you get this reference from? I cant find it on his current webpage? Rascoins website Thanks Rob, for some reason I was still getting his old list via bookmarked page So do I, but the new link came via email with list 22. The new site has the /global22 bit stuck on the end - whatever that means.

Where did you get this reference from? I cant find it on his current webpage? Rascoins website

Just English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say? £2750. ex Ashby 2448. Thanks, I have contacted some dealers on-line, and if there are any dealers/members on here that know of one for sale please let me know, I have a reasonable budget for one! So do I

I'm always suspicious of "rainbow" toning - I just can't see how it can be natural? (I.e. with red yellow and blue all present). If yours had just been blue where it's toned, I would have said "great natural toning". As it is, it really doesn't look bad, in fact it looks nice, but.... And is there a huge gouge on the cheek? You can get red, yellow and blue all present at the same time. Neither of these two are AT, guaranteed. I'm generally very suspicious of rainbow toning, but those are beautiful coins Rob. I want the gift from Peck! The second one was gifted from Peck to Rev. Rogers in 1957 as the ticket says. It was then acquired by Baldwins post mortem in 1961 where it languished in the basement for over 40 years whereupon I bought it. AT it isn't, though it is deliciously toned and looks like an oil painting. It is the worst condition of any of my R59 halfpennies, but I felt compelled to create a "Far too nice to sell" category and so retained some duplication. The first one was ex Selig (sold 1999) who got it from the Circular in 1982. The toning patterns are the same now as then, so definitely not AT either.

I don't think any of the British are AT given the age of the pieces. What is more of an issue is the rainbow toned coins that are still in nappies. You don't get modern coins from the last few decades with some of the toning seen. They are invariably multihued concentric circles. The older coins on the site listed have random patchy colouring which is what you would expect for 100+ year old silver.

I'm always suspicious of "rainbow" toning - I just can't see how it can be natural? (I.e. with red yellow and blue all present). If yours had just been blue where it's toned, I would have said "great natural toning". As it is, it really doesn't look bad, in fact it looks nice, but.... And is there a huge gouge on the cheek? You can get red, yellow and blue all present at the same time. Neither of these two are AT, guaranteed. 1807 silver halfpenny P1169, pattern halfpenny

Just English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say? £2750. ex Ashby 2448.

Congratulations, mine's a double . Time will tell for you to wish the 5lb 11oz catch had been a bass though.

Look in the local sellers' inventories if you want to buy non-US pieces. First of all the quality is likely to be better than on home turf and the quantities are also going to be greater. Very few items are found worldwide on auction sites, though the US is better served than most in this respect being the melting pot that it is. The lower grade material inevitably gravitates to ebay because most people don't have things that are worth considering for conventional auctions. At least in the US you are able to get mint state or thereabouts British coins with several sales coming up in the next week containing a good amount of qualtiy material. Greek and Roman are similarly widely traded, but beyond this you will need to look in the countries of origin. The US being geared towards slabbed coin sales means that only the higher grade pieces pass through the saleroom there. European countries have a reasonably diverse selection of material and you could do worse than explore this avenue. For most dealers, foreign coins tend to be a by-product of their own national currency which is what pays the bills. There are a few dealers in the US specialising in British material such as Allan Davisson in MN, but he tends to specialise in upmarket pieces which may be beyond your pocket. There are plenty of people on this site who would be able to offer British material if you were interested.

Not anything and everything. I am in truth a fairly selective magpie. As for worrying what is going to happen in the future, don't worry until the situation arises. All our collections are special to each of us, but very few will be first class and worthy of note. Those that have them will be aware of this and most will somewhere along the way have communicated the value to close relatives. Obviously, if you are collecting surreptitiously without the wife or family knowing, you are storing up a potential problem for the future, but if you share your enthusiasm with family members then they will grow to appreciate the collection too. I'm not saying they have to wholeheartedly embrace collecting, but forewarned is forearmed. I suppose I am saying, don't be the avaricious and secretive Gollum and be a bit more like the philanthropic members of past and present society - sharing your wealth by passing on the knowledge of what is in a decent collection will set them in good stead for the future and not result in throwing value away.