Rob

The weight quoted in Peck would bring the thickness down to less than 1mm, but we don't know the condition of it. If it were worn, then it is possible the thickness was originally 1mm or so thick which is at the bottom end of the farthing flan thickness. It is quite possible that halfpenny sized flans were punched out of a farthing thickness sheet of metal. The thin flan farthing in the Gregory pt.1 sale weighed 3.00g as opposed to a normal piece weighing say 4.75g ish. On this basis, the definition of a very thin flan is therefore approximately 60% of normal. A slightly related piece of info worth noting is as follows. The P778 (1718) silver 1/2d in the May Baldwins sale is 1.5mm thick as opposed to the normal thickness of 2-2.25mm and this is in line with silver proof farthings which are also struck on a thinner flan. For the record, I think the weight given in BMC for the Peck P778 of 157.3 grains is probably a typographical error. The description of the coin ie. worn with 2 file marks fits it as does the diameter. The actual weight is about 7.45-6g or 115 and a bit grains. Given that only a couple of pieces have ever been recorded, it is highly likely that this is the "P" piece. The 1 of the footnote is probably part of the weight that should have been printed, the decimal point having been moved to accommodate the obvious error of 15.73 grains. Just a thought.

Slightly detached from reality 1817 shilling

ww Fine £18, VF £40, EF £150, UNC £275. ww obliterated Fine £35, VF £75, EF £235, UNC £425.

Some "extremely rare" coins in Spink aren't and some coins are priced as if they came up every day whereas in fact they are extremely rare. To further muddy the water, the rarity values assigned in Freeman, Rayner, BMC etc are frequently at odds with the number of pieces seen at sales and are really only an indication of what was considered rare in 1964, 1970, 1972, 1985, 1992 etc. Post a couple of pictures and someone will be able to give an idea of scarcity together with a grade and ballpark value.

I've got an Edward Lee halfpenny in my gallery section. I've also got an Archbishop Warham 1/2d and have had a couple of Thomas Rotherham pennies in the past but have sold them

It looks to me that the top of the six is removed to the greater degree, more of the lower loop of the six remaining and becoming the lower loop of the 'new' number 8. The six is at an angle, leaning to the left and looks to be larger hence showing on both sides. My images are a little bit on the large side to post more than two at once.

Doesn't look like it. The 1858/3 normally has a characteristic flaw running through the bottom of the date and it doesn't show too much of the 3 either. Not very good grade example attached.

Thanks John. These both show a feature that I couldn't reconcile with an underlying 6. Both have an indent to a lesser extent than the overlying 8 but nevertheless a clear indent and that suggests to me an 8. It would have to be deformed a bit, but I have never seen a 6 with this feature. I would expect a 6 to have a straightish trending slightly convex outer border on the left side.

That's because there wasn't anything worth bidding on. It wasn't worth making a 500 mile round trip on the off chance there might be something in the bulk lots

Fine £90, VF £275 & EF £925

I can't see any reason to make it worth £50 either. Maybe the beer has been flowing.

This is a close-up of my 1858/6 half penny

And quickly relisted

Does anyone have an unambiguous 1858/6 halfpenny - Peck 1547. If so, could they post a close-up of the overstrike please. All of the examples so stated that I have seen have not been clearly so, including the 2 Nicholson pieces which I couldn't reconcile as an underlying 6. I have seen quite a few with something in the left hand recess of the 8, but all I would have described as die defects rather than an overstrike. Thanks.

In that case, please see my current listing of approximately 50 of this year and similar. At £8.50 each, that's well over £400 worth of coins, and all for a quid.

FDC- Fully dipped and cleaned?

Still overgrades but not as bad as others. I've had more than the odd not-UNC I wish I had this much money to waste 1863 shilling

Up to 6 months and yes in that order

Crap grading, but based on his own website's criteria or so it seems. 1806 halfpenny. For some reason, grading as a result of wear resets to a new level at 1797AD. Watford Coins. I'm not surprised he wants Paypal only. If his address became known, we'd all come round and picket his house to stop any of his lots escaping into the big wide world.

1878 3rd head shilling with the last R in BRITANNIAR: struck over an underlying A. With the obverse barely making VF, it's not the best grade piece but the overstrike is clear.

I sold him a few pieces of crap once - after all he has to get it from somewhere . Not the fastest payer in the world if I remember correctly.

There's a open3/normal 3 comparison in Freeman.

Another gem courtesy of eBay speak. The brockage line in the die is very clear. 1855 groat brockage.

A new range of confectionery from Rowntrees perhaps. I like the sky blue ones best, they taste delicious.