Rob

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I've got a Seaby 8th ed Std Catalogue (1969) available if anyone wants old pricing data. £5 delivered. Please PM if interested.

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It is both parts hardbound in the original binding (blue this year). Celtic to 1968, and then the pleasant sight of only a single page of decimals

Collect Civil War pounds and half-pounds and you will have a ready supply of ammunition to hand

That's a large pot of gold cunningly hidden on the gate post.

I'm in Manchester, but could get things shipped to a London address in time. The only other option would be if I was in Bracknell for the LCA auction, presumably the Sunday, but I haven't had a catalogue yet to determine whether it is worth going down.

Ultimately I am in business and not a charity. Whilst I am not averse to helping out with the odd enquiry, the number of catalogues you would need to compile a comprehensive list is large. Even if you took all of my spares you would still need to find more. Plus, the cost of shipping 100s of kgs half way around the world would be not insignificant. It's the age old problem of everyone wanting the information, but nobody is willing to spend money on acquiring the knowledge.

Given the lack of wear evident, the AU55 is probably about right for US grading. I guess they try to be consistent. What they struggle with is eye appeal, which is a major component of hammered coins. It isn't clipped, or at least is unlikely to be so given the weight of 5.97g. The problem with hammered is that you can get a coin that is mint state, flat, but as struck. This isn't an issue for people who collect by numbers.

A good starting point would be where at auction were they acquired? The opening line on this thread saying they were bought at auction 10 years ago, but now you want to know what they are and how much they are worth, doesn't bode well IMO. Nobody inadvertently buys a group of coins worth hundreds without having a clue what they are buying.

Prior to the publication of Seaby's Standard Catalogue in 1962 you have to rely on the prices realised at auction or those listed in places such as the Numismatic Circular, Coin & Medal Bulletin or other dealers' lists. Seaby and Spink did produce a couple of books prior to that with prices indicated, e.g. Seaby Catalogue of Copper Coins and Tokens (1949) but these reflected their stock at that moment in time, so you are still better off with a broad selection of lists. I have a book from 1917 - 'Coins and their Values' by E H Courville which, as described in the preface, is an attempt to list the prices realised for the major pieces at auction during that year. However, this only addressed the larger ticket items. Aside from oddities such as these, your best approach would be to acquire a broad selection of dealers' lists, with an emphasis on Seaby's Bulletin and Spink's Numismatic Circular, as these two dealers effectively set the market prices. With auctions too remote to attend for many and no internet, people obtained their pricing either from post-sale priced catalogues, or these two publications. I have a good number of spare Circulars and Bulletins going back to the 1940s if of any use along with a broad selection of catalogues, some with prices realised. A full list however, would be a case of opening Pandora's box.

I suspect they are just as divided as collectors the world over.

Depends on what you are looking for. I have a few thousand spare catalogues and books going back to the late 19th century, not all of which I have had time to list on the site. You might have to narrow it down a bit.

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In that case it could have come from PWP. After he sold his Saxon he collected gold and these were sold to Baldwin c.1938. Pulling out a couple random offerings - from the Bulletin in Feb 1941, a VF/gVF laurel was 72/6, and in the Jan 1943 Circular, an EF one was 5 guineas. 45/- would therefore be about right for a lower grade example, say approaching VF.

The ticket says Seaby 1962 ex RCB, so it isn't worth looking outside the 1959-62 range for a listing. The stamped numbers were only used on the last collection as far as I am aware. Bear in mind he sold his second collection through the Bulletin a decade before and then started again. It is possible he retained a few, though these are likely to be lost in the thousands he had. I suppose it is possible he could have taken back any unsolds from the second collection. I think the XI 460 is his cabinet reference. What is the coin?

Yes, a misprunt. Bull illustrated the date on p.153.

Do you mean the 1669 W3 shilling? If so, the last to come to market was probably the one on Ras' list in 2016, which was the ex Raynes 582 and Lord Hamilton 228 example.

The cut-off date was 1908. As of 1909 you could no longer order sets from the mint. That's why the price jumps a hundred quid for 1909 & 1910. The boxes were made for Spink as far as I am aware and possibly a few other businesses. Unfortunately the supply of dealer lists for the likes of Ready, Lincoln and Verity are not particularly common, and I don't have any to see if cases were advertised.

Thanks chaps. Looks like I am not the only person having issues.

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Same address but I'm certain it's a different name. It rings no bells at all, so possibly neither name is/was correct. However, if it is a room used by hotel porters living in, then any name could appear.

Anything to do with 'to ten'?

It could be 2 different hands from the same dealership. I did consider the ticket could be say an S&B as they used tickets with a line at the top, albeit usually on yellow tickets. But their stock items were usually coded with either an E, G or M prefix.

I would go for the two tickets are from the same dealer with the letters and B numbers added as a reference. Maybe cabinet B with a position reference? The letters TTR and MN could be cost codes, because if the 300 and 95 were ticket prices, there is no guarantee that was the price paid. That might fall down given the T would therefore be a 2 if it represents the cost. 225 might be too big a discount, but R could be 5. N could then be 0 and M either 8 or 9. If it helps, I also bought a lot with RB on the reverse of the ticket and a price of £60 on the other side. That would tie in with R=5 if the price paid was 50 something. This ticket was a completely different style, so presumably from different dealer. .