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It's a pity ebay don't offer a drop down menu that includes copies as a reason to report an item. I can't see a way to inform ebay that describes the problem, but I guess that is just the way they like it - no hassle and fees received.
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Hello fellow strange man. This date floats my boat too.
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I don't know what the regular mail insurance limit is in the US, but suspect it will be aligned with this country where the maximum insured value is £250. Over that and you are using a courier (including Parcelforce) which is considerably higher, or if you have separate insurance, you can send it regular mail. Prices can escalate. If I want to send a higher value thing to the US with a courier, the price is in the £30 area, but can be more depending on value. For imports from the US to me, $30 is a minimum charge whichever auction house it comes from. They won't send it on a wing and a prayer as they are responsible for it getting to you, so arses will be covered.
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Buggy - has there been a recent "upgrade"?
Rob replied to Peckris 2's topic in Forum technical help and support
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Mintages are definitely not the main determining factor in price, which for most things on this planet is supply and demand. A good example is the wreath crown where the vast majority of coins struck must still be extant, not having circulated to any large degree. In fact, these are likely to be the largest population of 20th century material surviving post-demonetisation where the numbers struck are close to the numbers extant. With no published die varieties to chase, it means the sales prices are quite clean and representative. Using high grade examples, with the exception of the 1934 with a mintage of 932 which regularly sell in the 3500 - 5000 range, all the others typically sell for 4-800. The two next lowest mintages with just under 2.5x this are the 1932 & 1936 which sell in the upper end of the range, but the others mostly sell in the 4-500 bracket. Based on mintages, the 1934 is clearly overpriced, or else the others are underpriced. Given the assumed correlation above between mintage vs extant, I suppose this gives us an approximate figure for the numbers of people collecting this issue. Demand for the rarest year (by mintage) is clearly buoyant based on prices, yet the number of examples coming to market is disproportionately large relative to the other mintages. They are always available. This I believe is due to collectors putting off purchasing a 1934 until relatively later in their collecting life due to the higher cost, and as a result will be retained for a shorter period of time than is the case for the other years, leading to them being resold quicker. The collector's perception of rarity is derived from the published figures published and it is this which drives the price, because it certainly isn't availability. The next two rarest years are probably a better indicator of demand. In my opinion, you see relatively fewer of these, and they command a small premium to the rest. The 4056 mintage for 1931 therefore appears to fully satisfy demand leading me to the assumption that the number of collectors is somewhere in the low thousands.I could be wrong, but don't think it is too wide of the mark. When it comes to varieties the waters are somewhat muddied, as they tend to only be collected by the broader population once they have been written down and referenced, and then only by a small minority of specialists. The majority of collectors will only ever want a type example. This leads to some stratospheric prices where only a handful are known, but the collector base is wide, but also leads to a rapidly reducing price subsequently once more examples become available due to the spread of knowledge and people actively seeking out the variety, e.g. the 1893/2 penny. That speaks volumes about attention to detail and the depth to which collectors actually study their coins, and raises the question of greed and avarice - but that's another discussion.
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Could this not be a difference of perception? While coins are circulating the relative rarity applies to those that you can expect to find in your pocket. Once no longer legal tender, then the rarity goalposts move to reflect the reduced number of people with an interest in the coin. The number of actual collectors of said item then has to be weighed against the number of coins extant, which will diminish rapidly around the time of demonetisation.
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Brilliant.
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Assistance with Die Study - 1787 Shillings & Sixpences
Rob replied to Madness's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
It's always worth delaying publication until you are satisfied the article is complete as you inevitably find something that casts doubt on your findings to date. As for publishing images, the catalogues are already deemed to be in the public domain, so you are unlikely to run into copyright issues by illustrating these. If the source is given, then the auction house is being given free publicity. Images taken from articles on a website would be different. All studies use the author's images where possible. -
It affects both sides, but tends to be more obvious on the obverse because there is a greater expanse of flat areas and less clutter in the design. Here's one with it on both sides.
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Haymarking. Probably flecks of oxidised copper from insufficiently mixed metal. Copper is the metal usually added to get the correct silver fineness. Copper (II) oxide is black.
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The sub groups are determined by the punctuation. Unless you can identify or eliminate saltires and/or apostrophe contraction marks, the coin must remain a generic type 5. If it only has a single saltire on the reverse, that makes it a reverse (i). Best bet is to identify the bit after HENRIC.
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I think the only relevant attribution here is a CAC sticker. The others simply don't convey the same sense of realism.
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Shillings & Florins in circ. after 1971
Rob replied to Viccy Penny's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I think the left's reaction to the Thatcher years was a whinge in the realisation that the cozy life in the union-run country of the 1970s was disappearing in a puff of smoke. People complain about Thatcher in the 80s, but what about the 70s where a walkout was determined by a show of hands. The example where Derek Robinson shut Longbridge with a clearly small minority favouring a strike - yet the vote was deemed to be passed, that and similar actions set the seeds of Thatcherism because it was clear the country was in danger of being run by the unions. From my own experience, I was given a warning for working too hard when at the post office after graduation. I was told in no uncertain terms that it took 10 minutes to load this van, 20 for that, 45 for another. And the funereal pace of the mail bag folding area would have embarrassed even the most lethargic, with a rate of 2 per minute, the bags neatly folded with such perfection that it would have put many a laundry to shame. They could have relieved the boredom by doing a bag every 15 seconds, but that was the agreed rate. Only available to permanent staff, the list of people putting their name down for this jolly was lengthy. That was my life in the 70s, and I didn't like it either. It is the difference in view of work ethics that explains this country's lack of productivity when compared with other developed nations. Ultimately, nothing happens in isolation. -
Assistance with Die Study - 1787 Shillings & Sixpences
Rob replied to Madness's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Crown cushion ends vary a little. The harp strings are different and partly filled on the bottom coin, the date is differently aligned, the stops by date are a different size. You could check to see if the Garter Star rays are from the same punch. If the central garter is not part of the same punch as the rays, it could be rotated on any die by a quarter turn or multiples thereof. -
Coin/Token/Medallion Identification
Rob replied to Warhurst's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Simple. Serving a market using a combination of greed, gullibility and ignorance. The Daily Mail and other rags have been telling the public for years that the coins in their pocket are all worth many multiples of face value. This despite the banks continuing to issue them at face value - and they are hardly slow to make a quick buck. Consequently, many people are now convinced that they should be wealthy beyond imagination. Many buyers want to buy into the dream. Gullible, because many have bought into this dream, and believe any coin to be worth a lot of money without doing any research. After all, with electronic banking, coins are clearly anachronistic, so must have increased in value. Ignorant because mob rule rules. You don't need to do homework because we are all on the same bandwagon - allegedly. -
Will somebody tell him it's a copy (and not silver) please. I did and he said he would look into it, but hasn't looked very hard so far. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/unresearched-medieval-hammered-silver-coin/223185588269?hash=item33f6e5d02d:g:kdgAAOSwfr1bv5KI
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1887 6d's
Rob replied to Unwilling Numismatist's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Is that not due to the shallow impression of the underlying letter? With only the top of the punch relief entered, you would only see a bit of the punch, but presumably end up with the sides showing as two parallel lines once fully entered. It's the sort of detail that you could only check for by looking at V(ICT..) on an uncirculated example. -
Maximum picture size is 500kB. But if you try to upload an image larger than that and then try a smaller file, the program remembers the earlier attempt and adds it to the total uploaded. Don't ask why. If you leave the thread and come back into it again, it seems to clear the memory and you then have 500kB at your disposal again.
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Keep the size under 500kB and it should be ok, but best leave the thread and re-enter.
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Good.
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Without knowing you future intentions, there's no right or wrong answer. If you have bought it for the grade number with a view to selling it in the future as you think prices are going to increase, then it is clearly an investment decision and taking it out of the slab shouldn't come into it. If you are collecting as opposed to investing, then it is entirely up to you. I have removed many 65 & 66 graded coins from the slab to put the coins in my cabinet, some the 'finest known'. i.e The biggest number on the slab to date from that TPG. As this number doesn't translate across TPGs and in any case is not necessarily reproducible even if the same coin is submitted twice to the same TPG, I don't get too tied up agonising about removing them from the plastic. For me the question is whether the coin is an integral part of the collection, and if so, it has to fit in the tray - something slabs manifestly don't. It's horses for courses as we have discussed many times.
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How much did they charge for it? Just wondering, because when I wrote my article on the Weyl patterns, they wanted £60 a side for the seven coins in their collection. £420 for images to include in a BNJ article I was doing for free with no chance of financial gain. Didn't take them up on the offer. The pictures of the other 85 coins I was able to locate cost me nothing.
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1855
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There aren't