Rob

No recorded mintage, but very common as they were struck over a number of years. Yours has graffiti in the angles that has been partially removed and it looks to have suffered from a bit of haymarking. I suggest it was dug up at some point looking at the surfaces.

And the edge? That's the thing that copies always fall down on. Out of sight, out of mind (invisible idiot)

There's nothing wrong with it, but the question has to be asked, if you were uncertain, why buy it in the first place?

A decent demonstration of rusted dies.

Thank you. 2 down, not too many to go

Anyone else like to say not me? Eventually someone will be named by default!

You might have to look across the pond for someone similarly obsessed with Canadian coinage. I can only offer what Charlton says which is that 'there are 3 reverses from independently engraved master tools. The provincial leaves 1876-82, Large Leaves 1884-91 and Small Leaves 1891-1901. Four varieties exist for the obverse but their detailed listing is not included in this catalogue'. So methinks you will find something if you dig a bit deeper.

OK, own up. Which kind soul anonymously posted me an aquatics 50p? Thank you, whoever you are.

I'm not sure the reverse uniface exists - I'm certainly not aware of one. I do know there are at least 2 of these obverse unifaces as Murdoch III lots 417 & 418 both had an example with the first coming from the L C Wyon collection sold in 1901. However, there was wasn't one in Montagu (1890), who had only a full coin dated 1825. That suggests the ESC rating of R4 is way out because it is highly unlikely Montagu wouldn't be able to acquire something with '11-20 known' given he had everything else! This coin was ex-Whetmore 355 and Adams 628 based on the latter's notes from Baldwin, however, following his sale it was entombed and attributed to Lingford on the label. At no point do his notes or any correspondence say Lingford, so I think that was either wrong, or somebody knew something Colin didn't as he had close on a hundred ex Lingford coins and you can't mistake L's tickets. We can say with reasonable certainty that the Barton's Metal patterns were among the last 1824 halfcrowns struck as the die is breaking up.

Here's another in case you are bored.

I bought the One Centum to tick that denomination box. It was conveniently not in copper, as I already have a 2 Cents in this metal, ex Hopetoun House Collection and a super coin. 'scuse the hair on the scanner

The only thing that looks wrong with this one is the price. The letters are usually fish tailed and the obverse is usually slightly convex whereas the reverse is concave, thus protecting the latter's detail. The obverse is usually more worn as a consequence. Mine has similar lettering characteristics. Edited to add, sorry, just realised it is a halfcrown and not a crown, but the principle still applies across multiple denominations.

Is that guest mark, or guest marek? I presume you are highlighting your wares? Chris the owner of this forum does albums and accessories - see the top of the page and follow the link.

Silver shouldn't go rusty, unless it is deposits from the field

I'd be more inclined to think the first. They were making decimal patterns from 1961 to 1963, so a thicker coin relative to diameter than usual as we now see with the pound coin could have been mooted. Though why in silver is a big question mark.

Well done. I won the Marrian & Gausby centum pattern. I wanted a few more but got blown out the water. The superb Ormonde crown I had pencilled in at 3500ish, but a hammer of five and a half was a bit much for me. Lot 1203 was a P1205 1798 farthing which I had 1000 on but made 1300. Not too surprised with that as the last one to come around sold for almost £1K hammer 5 or 6 years ago at W&W. It's seriously rare as a variety. Someone had a very nice Moore pattern P2130 which I came second on.

I'm still looking for an aquatics to make the full set. Must get off my backside as they can hardly be described as rare.

The fair moved from the Cumberland Hotel to the Holiday Inn at Bloomsbury a good few years ago now. Someone will know the dates the fairs are on.

Blame the penny people for the initial duplication of threads. They were the ones who felt they needed their own.

Why would anyone want to collect anoraks? Coins are much more interesting.

I'm not convinced it is entirely feasible as a project as there are many unique or nearly so die pairs which reside in museums, so material is always a problem. Unfortunately I only have limited resources here now as I thinned out the patterns over the past decade to leave myself with a single example where possible of each Peck type - KH1, KH2 etc, and there is a large number of gaps which may or may not be possible to fill. The only reason I kept the 5 R42s was because of the glaring inconsistencies when comparing the coins with the references. Peck's work is a very good attempt at establishing the chronology, but does have a few things I can't reconcile. Unfortunately his collection which provided much material for the book now resides in Birmingham museum, and I don't live in Birmingham.

The trouble is there isn't a sufficient number of people to do this. Bronze pennies aside, there are never more than one or two that take a serious interest in other specific topics. As for the surfaces, I was looking for die polishing lines. As these are random, any identical lines found on a different die provide the link you are seeking.

That narrows it down to a few dozen possibilities. You will have to post a picture to get an idea what it is. If a Peck 1161, then these were one of the first restrikes made before the dies had any remedial work done with the entire surface of both dies covered in rust. Is it as rusty as the attached? The bronzing was a bit hit and miss too.