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yep, after paying close attention to picture, the rock formation is different, they have both got three rocks to the left but revolved round, and a true beaded border is more pronounced, i dont really collect farthings, my personal collection is crowns and half crowns, i buy and sell to pay for my hobbie, im not giving up, im gonna find a genuine mule oneday, watch this space anyway, thanks guys, your brilliant, watch out for me on ebay, same name, and unlike certain people on there i am honest, il be back on soon!

yes they are, but the base of teeth/beads are rounded aswell and not touching outer rim, the reverse of coin is different than obverse, why would this be, i would of thought if it was wear both sides would wear equally?

sorry everybody, just gettin the hang of it, thanks chris, looks much neater

yep, three rocks, one big one then two smaller ones, you can clearly see it!, have you taken a look at my pictures?

after just readin an old descusion about about a slabbed mule, and some descrepencies with it, my 0 touches linear circle, so does cookes mule, also i counted 130 beads on reverse, about five or six more on toothed side, i think more points to it being a mule, sorry, im just getting exited, some people think im starnge to be passionate about coins,(people have an impression of elderly men) im only 32, i think all you guys are great and count me as a regular! p.s sorry about all the posts, im a big kid really!

on the full reverse picture, some parts of coin do look toothed, but this is just scanner angle, its pretty much same all round, the base of the beads, if you look carfully, do cureve round. the obverse is clearly toothed, the more i look the more i think ive got a genuine mule.

hi, im back again, the mule i baught wasnt a mule and am a bit more clued up now, ive got another 1860 farthing that could well be a mule, ive taken a look at colin cooke and the detail is right, right down to rock formation to left of lighthouse, i appreciate toothes can look rounded, but even at base where it meets rim? anyway, heres a few picks for your expert eyes, if it is a mule will bhe on ebay soon, 99p, no reserve.

I have seen a couple of farthings that give a prooflike appearance. One of my 1893's has this effect. I think as someone else has commented it would tend to be an early strike. As for the Mule, the image only shows the reverse of the coin and it has a toothed border. All the mule varieties have a beaded reverse and a toothed obverse, so I would say it is very unlikely that it is in fact a mule. yeah tottally agree with yo, infact got coin today and it is a toothed, he accepted full responsibility, apologised and is givin me a full refund. ive got another 1860 witch im unsure about, gonna shoe some pictures on a new topic. took a very good look at the cook collection and his mule and i think, but not sure that i may have a mule. will post tonight

p.s, id say condition of coin is very fine.

50 pound, a bit of a gamble but the buety of paypal is you can afford a gamble, it was advertised as a mule so seller accepts responsibility and im covered under paypal, hes also got 100% feedback, so if it wasnt, probably just an honest mistake, ive had some really good bargains in the past.

ive just purchased a 1860 bb/tb mule on ebay, picture wasnt very clear so cant verify it, just going on the sellers word. il post coin on this site so all your expert oppinons can be heard, as for price its either a bargain price for a rare coin or an expesive price for a tb farthing.

o.k thanks, i would add a pic but the my scanner is great for detail but not for the capturing of lustre and contrast,thanks for your answer though

hi, my names matt, ive been collecting coins since i was a boy but only recently taking it seriously, so still a bit of a novice. i get many of my coin of ebay, and sell a few to. ive got an intresting farthing, its 1893 and uncirculated, it is toned but a lot of lustre is still there, especially on reverse, in itself not a great or rare coin but ive found something intresting about it, it seems like a proof, three things lead me to think this, first its a very sharp strike, full detail, the background is very smooth, under the toning, mirror like and also britannia seems frosted, the obverse is the same to a lot lesser degree, its more heavier toned, coin hasnt been cleaned in the past, i can spot cleaned coins a mile away also frosting would of been wiped away if cleaned. Im just wondering if it could be a proof, do they exist for that year, ive only got spink 2007. P.s i decided to join this site because ive read a very intresting article about an 1860 farthing tb/bb mule.