Gary

I too have a two headed penny. This one however is beyond me, George V and Elizebeth II. Why anyone would go through the trouble to do this is beyond me. You cant even win the toss with it! Again the two coins have been sanded or ground down and then stuck together. Weight 8.9 gramms so not a bad attempt, about 0.5g short.

is it just me or has anyone else noticed the frequency in which this coin pops up on Ebay, mostly in very high grades. Over the last year there have been quite a few and all reach very respectable prices. There is one in there now 1860 described as EXCEEDINGLY RARE. Is it the same coin just doing the rounds or is it not as rare as thought? All the features described by the seller are normal for this overstrike, the A over A and the O in one. The die flaw to the right of the 1 of the date is identical to the one that I own. Also quite a few of the letters on the Obv are recut or double struck.

Thanks Rob, thanks Gary. I got my head around it in the end and yes I also agree with you both 11 + J, F321. Just needed pointing in the right direction.

Hi Guys, I have been trying to determine which Obv/Rev this coin has but cannot seem to pin it down. So I`ll throw it open and see what you come up with. Using Freemans it is either an Obv 11 or 12. If the CD from Mal Lewendon uses Freeman number then it should be an Obv 12, the R´s of BRITT and REG align with a tooth. As for the Rev, according to Freeman the only Rev paired with Obv 12 is L. However Rev L is a wide date and as you can see on the scan this is a narrow date Rev. There are windows to the lighthouse so Rev K is ruled out. This only leaves Rev J. Does anyone have the new edition of Freeman`s? Is there a new Die pairing listed for the 1875 Halfpenny, Obv 12, Rev J ?? Thanks And the Rev

Does seem strange, I agree. The first two example were found here in germany at Auctions. The last example originated from the Uk via Ebay. I nearly missed the first one, due to the small size of the lettering they are easy to miss. I am sure there are more out there but I would still reckon they are much scarcer than say the 1865/3 penny which as we know commands quite a high price. This is probably due to the 1865/3 being well known and documented. I did send an E-Mail to spinks but got no reply! Chris said he would consider listing it in the 2007 Edition of CCGB, has anyone got a copy yet? is it listed? I still have to get around to ordering mine, probably do it after I finish this post. Like now.

a third example has now turned up, see scan. Not super, struggles to reach nF. I will probably be selling this one on on Ebay in the near future. Eyes open!! close up

Hello, I have been doing a bit of adding up. Why is it that over a period of 35years (1825-1860) only a relatively small amount of copper pennies were minted. The sum adds up to just 31.5 Million compared to the enormous 92 Million in just the first 3 years of the bronze penny (1860-1862). What happened to justify this large increase in the demand for penny coins? Indeed, not just for pennies but for small change in general. food for thought? Thanks, Gary ps. Mintage figures are taken from Collectors Coins GB 2006

I agree, not E over N but a repunched or recut E. The top underside of the E can be seen protruding below the repunched E. The " I " also looks to be recut. See enlarged scan.

Does anyone have an example of this coin or an 1860 F268A (Rev D)? If yes, would you be kind enough to have a look to see if the 6 in the date is recut over another 6? I´ll let you know why latter. Thanks, Gary

Ok, lets see if we can sum this up. Rev D I have 2 examples, both of which have the 6 recut however they are not from the same die. One being recut slightly lower and too the left the other being higher and too the left. Both are different to the 6 o 6 shown by "Bronze & Copper Collector" above. This one seems to be a smaller 6 over a lower larger 6. Recut 6 - x4, at least 3 Dies or the same die recut several times (unlikely?) Recut 6 - with 1st 1 over 1 x1 Last 1 over 1 x3 Normal x3 (all F268A, 1860) Total Rev D´s listed above, 11. Obv 7 (Coupled with Rev D) R of REG recut x1 BRITT REG F D and colons recut x1 RE of REG recut x1 Normal x1 (F268A, 1860) and 7 with no mention of alterations. Obv 7 (Coupled with other Rev Dies) B over R in BRITT R over B in BRITT 1st T over much higher T in BRITT Ok, I think I have got that about right. Anyone wish to add to the list? The reason I started this was I thought that maybe the recut 6 was a identification mark for Rev D on 1861 halfpennies, however 3 have been reported with a normal 6`s so thats my theory gone out of the window. However it seems that that both Rev D and Obv 7 were subject to a lot of repair work which could be understood in the case of Obv 7 as this was the main Obv Die for the 1861 Halfpenny. The Rev D die however, if the rarity ratings can be believed (questionable), is quite rare which suggests it was not in use for long, the extensive repair work carried out on this die suggests, to me, otherwise........ Have a good one, Gary

Hi Mal, the Obv with the half colon dot first seems to appear in 1874 and the youngest coin that I have with the half colon is an 1881 F544. Of the 7 examples dated 1879 (listed as only being obv 5) that I have to hand, 3 are with complete colon dots and 4 with the half colon dot ( Freemans illustration of Obv 5 is with full colon dot). I have- 1875H both half and full colon dot. 1876H half colon 1880 F541 Half colon dot 1881 F544 Half colon dot Using the 1879 farthings, I have compared the two types and can find no significant difference in the design. On the half dot type, the colon dots in general seem to be bolder and on the 1879`s the G of REG does not show the G being over another letter where as the full colon dot has the G over ? Can anyone confirm the exsistance of both types for years 1874-1881 or even outside this date range? Cheers, Gary and the half colon dot type.

According to Freeman the Obv 4 die was only used at the Heaton Mint in 1874. On this Die, the lower colon Dot after F:D: is only half a dot. Is this a distinguishing mark for this Obv Die? I have the second edition (1985) of Freemans book in which F542 is listed as "No specimen known", does anyone know what the F542 was listed as in the 1970 Edition? Cheers, Gary

I tend to agree with you, this is Obv 6. The apparent flaw to the forehead which indicates Obv 5 is in my opinion due to damage sustained during circulation. Of the 3 Halfpennies of mine with Obv 5, two have the flaw lower down on the forehead, half way between the hairline and the top of the eye and one does not have the flaw. However all three have the scalloped top middle leaf as "Bronze & Copper Collector" mentioned. The incuse leaf veins in the fourth group, to the right and left of the main one seem to be quite clear. The raised leaf veins show up on a scan much thinner as it is only a single line. I had always wondered why Freeman listed Obv 7 before Obv 6! I shall now be on the look out.

The first time I came across him, his starting pices were 0,99, now he has increased the start price for his coins. Maybe he is starting to realise it can not go on like this. Hope so, for his sake.

I have two 1875H, both with 4 Berries (F532), one with complete colon dot and one with half a dot. Opinions? Maybe the Obv 4 Die was not just used for the 1874H Farthing.

I agree with you Rob but in this case I took a chance and it paid off. Obviously I would not be willing to take a chance if more money was involved. I also bought this one1845 Farthing nEF This one, although the grading was Ok did have defects. Small areas of verdigris, but at £7,99 was not a great loss.

1864 Farthing This is a coin I bought from him last week. Look at the scan on Ebay and below is the coin I recieved. If I were him I would buy a new scanner.

F532, Yes of course it is! H below date. A typing error from me, sorry.

Just come across this one and thought I would let you know. The A is recut over a lower misplaced A. The T is also recut, slightly off center. It is an 1875H Farthing, F531, Obv 5, Rev C. Grade gF.

Hello, these were probably plated silver (nickel) with the intention to make some kind of cheap jewellery item like a charm bracelet. I have 2 of these plated halfpennies, both 1967, one of which is holed at the top. As to the value- £0,00

The scans do get resized- 640 Pixels wide, I do not know about height! So if you resize your scans using your graphics program to 640 pixels width then there will be no quality loss when posting them. Another tip is to sharpen your pictures before reducing their size. I use a digi cam and even on the smallest setting of 2MB the size is about 3 times that required. Reducing, digitally, the size always results in a loss in quality this can be offset by sharpening the picture before resizing. Trial and error, just play around with your graphics program until you find the settings that suit you. I use Picture Publisher 8 which is free, or it was when I got it which is a while back. The last Picture Pub was Ver 10 and then they were taken over by Coral and it became Coral Photobook. This I have as well but unfortunatly Coral decided to switch of quite a few functions which p****d me off so I went back to PP8.

Ok Chris here is your mega test image

I have been asked about this 1858 Penny by a friend and I am going to throw it open. To me it looks like a small date over a large date but it is very close call, so opinions please. Thanks, Gary cannot attach a picture! "Global Space Left: 0bytes". help! what has happened? Are we no longer allowed to post pictures? Ok, I have put a scan on the net , here. 1858 Penny

Ok, cheers Rob. So just a recut Die then.