Gary

The 1903 HC is quite hard to find in good condition. A quick ebay search reveals 11 examples ranging in grades from VG to Very Fine with BIN prices from £110 to £750. Auction start prices range from £75 to £237. Only one (grade NF) started low and has a price of £22 with 2 days to run. I got my example (grade VG) from ebay in 2007 for £32. I dont have a 1905! For a coin below fine to be listed in a catalouge it has to be extremely rare! Usually no higher grades are available. The 1903, although scarce, is still quite obtainable in Fine and VF if you have the readies

oh! the youth of today.......what do they teach them these days!

memories of the late 70's early 80's? Investors turning to other sources in these troubled times? Pushing up market prices!

I love the conjunction of "Bidding has ended on this item" with "0 bids" hang on! could that have been an 1882 no H........................

Welcome to the forum Pete. We'll help where we can.

I saw it as well. Gouby lists this coin as being Obv. P Rev r. Freeman does not list an 1882 no H. The Obv P does not have the R and I of BRITT touching and REV r should have a flat and not convex shield. Even if these are correct it could still be an altered coin and I would certainly not pay four figures for it. The Gouby value is £500 in Fine condition which this coin is clearly NOT

It's HERE Gary. Doh! Thanks Accumulator, had already downloaded that one, old age, the brains not working too well

Sometimes I despair! Descrbed as "Nice Coin" Trash on Ebay

Michael Gouby has similar rarity ratings for the various combinations to Michael Freeman so unless he used Michaels Freemans ratings then both have made a mistake which seems unlikly. Do you have a copy of VR Courts study that you could send me? Would be interested in seeing it.

Yes, he was an airline pilot but I gather he is now retired.

Mal Lewendon is a member of this forum if I am not mistaken. I seem to remember getting my copy of the disk from him via this forum. Last seen sunning himself in France I believe Agreed, invaluable but I feel there is room for improvement. Sorry Mal.

Didn't work for me either Can you not upload the pdf her as a attatchment? me niether...

Firstly, I was not putting down Pecks work but mearly trying to warn people off paying lots of money for a publication that may not fit thier needs. I remember when I started collecting, funds were limited and I concentrated mainly on bronze pennies. Pecks name came up frequently and I started looking for a copy as I got the impression that it was the be all publication for bronze but I could not afford one. Years later, after Freeman and Gouby, I had the good fortune to meet someone who had a copy which he agreed to loan me. I got to know him through the internet and ebay but he lives miles away and I have never met him face to face. Anyway he said he would post his copy to me and I could keep it for as long as I wanted. I waited eagerly for Peck to arrive which it did a couple of days latter, in pristine condition, as new. It looked as though it had never been used and I was nearly afraid to open the pages of the great book in case they got creased. As I have already said I was disappointed, I learnt nothing new from it for my particular collecting area which is mainly post 1799. It was however, an interesting read and I kept it for about four weeks, ironing the pages after every use! The title is confusing then. I did not know he also used his own collection and I agree with you about his work on the Soho mint, pages and pages of it. Unfortunatly, most of us do not have the means to collect Patterns or Proofs (pre 1900) See above Peter, no disrespect meant towards Mr Peck. As for farthings I think the internet sites of Colin Cooke and ColinGs (aboutfarthings) have done a little to correct that What about the poor cousin, the halfpenny?

Intresting though, the Queen with a runny nose!

Sorry to go a little off topic here but I keep hearing people refering to Peck as though it is the be and end all reference guide. The full title is "C W Peck, English Copper, Tin and Bronze Coins in the British Museum 1558-1958" and is just as the title suggests, a study of the coins held in the british museum. It is a usefull reference work no doubt especially for Boulton, Taylor and the Soho Mint as Peckris has already stated but is not as comprehensive as other works such as Freeman, Gouby, DaveGs books etc when it comes to general currency coinage. I borrowed a copy once and as a bronze and copper collector, mainly 1799-1970, I found it disappointing. So if you are general collector and thinking about forking out a lot of money for this work I suggest you try to look at a copy first to see if its the right reference work for your needs!

could have been reverse side down on a damp surface for a long time.........

Both have seen circulation, the 1842 more than the 44. I would put the 42 at VF and the 44 GVF.

That is very nice......... Did I win the lottery this week? Sadly NO!

A dark blue/green colour on bronze coins is usualy caused by long contact with soil ie buried. You often see these coins being offered on ebay by detectorists. In my experience olive oil will not do the trick, more drastic action is needed to remove the green tone. If it's just green and has no surface erosion then I would suggest leaving it as it is.

Actually it's really easy, just very well hidden for some reason. This is what you do: 1. Choose the cell that you want to activate the coin pic. when you mouse-over (if you want separate pics for OBV & REV just use two cells, one for each) 2. Right click on that cell then choose 'insert comment' from the drop down menu 3.The text box which pops up may contain some dummy text which you can just delete. 4. Place your mouse pointer over the BORDER of the box, right click and choose 'Format Comment' from the drop down menu. This is the important bit, because if you right click over the centre of the box you won't get the option to add a pic later! 5. In the Format Comment window that pops up, click on the 'Colours and Lines' tab then click on the down arrow next to Fill Colour to bring up the colours and fill effects. Click on the 'Fill Effects' button at the bottom. 6. In the fill effects window which pops up, you will have a 'Picture' tab which allows you to browse and select a picture from your computer. 7. Finally, you may need to close the Fill Effects window and go back to the Format Comment window to set the size and aspect ratio of the pop-up pic. You can also add some text if you like too. Once you have done the above, a small red triangle will appear in the corner of the cell to show that a pic is available. Very neat! And that's it. Sounds complicated but it's really not. Thanks for that Accumulator. Have been using Hyperlinks up to now and am now busy adding comments

I'd go for lower relief which would be easier to block up such that clarity is reduced. Fill a 1mm deep hole to a depth of 0.1mm and you probably won't notice; fill a 0.15mm or 0.1mm deep hole to the same depth and any design will almost or completely disappear. What Rob said. If you look at the darker coin you will see that the legend is also bolder and stands out more, probably an early strike. I have checked mine and they are both different. One has a worn T and a missing first full stop and the other one is as your bright 96.

Not to mention the Duraglit surface! Well, if someone's going to shell out their hard-earned money for such a rare artifact, the least they can expect is to have it nicely buffed up for them by the seller. Personally I don't like my coins dunked in Brasso... but there we go. I think that they're best left alone as I have heard horrific stories about people trying to clean them the wrong way and I like them to have a patina. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Thanks for posting this site. It has identified a coin (Jeton) that I have had for many years and have never been able to identify....... Nuremberg Jeton of Hans Krauwinckel II I believe I found this jeton in tha early 70,s as a young kid while living in Paderborn, Germany. Thanks again. gary

He also writes "It has only been out of its proof case to be photographed." ! Has anyone tried to remove coins from the proof sets without wrecking the holder! If this coin was still in the Proof set then the other coins would be toned too and would sell for a lower figure than a set with perfect coins. This coin is imperfect full stop....

Well knock me down with a feather!!!