Bronze & Copper Collector

Hardly! Different usernames, but even if you reckon they have one username for the States and one for the UK, that doesn't excuse that the coin appears to be in Lawndale, California and in Warwickshire, England, at one and the same time. Sorry, I was looking at the links and not the auctions that were listed in the next post.... Mea Culpa

I have one (I'll post in a few days when I get home).. I know of maybe 3-4 others, probably a few more out there....

Am I missing something??? It's the same seller, isn't it??? Doesn't make it right, but might it be just a listing mistake.... or some other mistake but without conspiracy theories??

It was a slender 3 that went at 22k So it was. Thanks for that Azda. Also the Die #5 that I think Dave was referring to in the post.... Same buyer too, I believe

Freeman 112

Looks like 2+D, N over sideways N (Z)... barely visible but the die crack by the date is a giveaway. Not quite as rare as people make out but a nice example and price probably about right... I agree, N over Z, the other clue if you look carefully is the re-entered O in ONE, the two always seem to go together (Gouby 1860 JA). Mine has the same die crack also David I picked it as an N/Z almost immediately when I thought I saw the slightly doubled A on the obverse... The nub on the bottom of the N was the giveaway..... Mine is nice, but not as nice.... But the bidding as of now is beyond my budget for just an upgrade...

Yes 1/1 Also known with 4/4

Azda, you are correct it is a partially block die, there are also examples of 1843 penny DFF, both described in Bramahs, on the better grade examples the lower part of the E is still traceable and repairs to the E are evident on the later dates. I've also dealt with Ian, we do email now and again, but not sure why these would be called DFF when you can clearly see the trace of the E, so obviously not an F. Its not ike the inverted A for V on the halfpennies where its obvious a letter has been replaced I too refer to it as a DFF variety... Merely shorthand for a variety that is easier to use than DEF, Blocked lower leg of E, appears as an F.... Much like the descriptive ONF variety penny although we all know that it is truly an E with a partially filled die...

actually TOY COINS by David Rogers OOP

Rogers toy money... out of print I think....

Great Reading and GREAT INFORMATION...... I'll tuck a copy of that into my Freeman and my Peck.... plus keep it on my computer too....

No harm in asking at all. An open 3 is a very rare variety of 1903 where the 3 in the date has its top and bottom strokes pointing to the left (as in normal writing). The common type has a stylised 3 where the top and bottom strokes curl towards each other, and the whole effect looks like an 8 more, but with a little piece missing from the left hand side. (Very hard to explain in words - there are plenty of threads in this forum where members have put up comparison pictures). I'm 90% certain (from the picture you put up) that your 1903 is the regular variety, not the open 3. It is the normal 3....

Mal Lewendon is a member of this forum if I am not mistaken. I seem to remember getting my copy of the disk from him via this forum. Last seen sunning himself in France I believe Agreed, invaluable but I feel there is room for improvement. Sorry Mal. There is ALWAYS room for improvement..........

But to give proper credit, I believe his disk and some of the information within, is based upon the research of Iain Dracott who published 3 part article on the Victorian Bunheads several years ago in Coin News (? not at home right now, and I'm not sure if that is the name of the monthly magazine)... I have expanded my collection to include the Dracott varieties and even some newer prior undiscovered varieties... (i.e. Gary Bretts 1861 R/B in BRITT, my 1873 obv 7 rev c#, etc) That being said, it is an invaluable reference disk to have... a tool that no Victorian Bunhead collector should be without...

£260 now....

Item Removed.... I WISH I had that ability... LOL.... I meant that I had looked to see what the listing was, and I got a message that the item was removed..... how did you do that?

I've got a few of the milled edge specimens.... All from the mid 1890's... I'll check my 1919 KN's when I get home.....

Item Removed....

just as a basic start... Freeman Gouby Peck Bramah Batty Satin (Jerrams) Bressett Seaby Spink Krause World Haven't even started to list US books

Agreed. After all, it's not only a piece of history but it is also the history of the piece. An EXCELLENT turn of words...... and very true....

Hello All, My turn to ask for help on two items.... First is a item slightly larger that a bronze penny, weighs 11.6 grams... Image attached

I started to make a list and it has become a project.... I didn't realize how many reference books I had.... I'll try to post as I get them listed..... Started as a text list, decided to put it in excel....

Certainly at least one.....

What a fascinating and most interesting piece of history. Thanks for sharing that with us. You're quite welcome.... Often the hunt for information regarding an unusual find, is the real fun of collecting.....