Bronze & Copper Collector

Welcome from NYC

I too find Rendel's prices (and grades) a little beyond my expectation. However, don't let your fantasies about Megan go too far. (S)he's actually David Mason, who used to be World Coins in Canterbury, but who took himself off to Spain a few years ago. I think he called himself Megan after his daughter. I agree - Too often there are no images and I have had to return mis-attributed coins.... I've learned to generally ask for images before ordering now...... This applies to several sellers... PS: The first time that I was placed in contact with Laurie Bamford, I too expected a female on the other end, not realizing that is was short for Laurence.. We BOTH got a few chuckles over that....

SAFE-T-MAILERS is correct... Not sure if there is a GB distributor for them though....

Another F-169 to savor

Neat -- where did you 'find' it? In my collection.... I don't have the others, although I might have pics of them.... I'll check

LOL.... First time one of MY auctions was noted here.... But I suppose it's better than being recognized in "EBAY LAUGHS" It IS a TERRIBLY LOW GRADE specimen, with just barely enough detail at the CRUCIAL points to be identified as an obverse signature type, but NOT good enough to determine whether it is an Obverse 2 or an Obverse 3..... I've sold WORSE condition RARE coins often enough to know that there is a market for everything.... You just don't know when or where or who.... RE: the 1863 slender 3, the specimen that recently sold is the 2nd known specimen, I believe purchased by the same buyer that won the 1863 die number 5, a unique (so far) coin. The Crocker collection seemed to bring more of a true market value for MOST coins..... SOMETIMES, bidders get carried away with their bidding in what sometimes appears to be an exhibition of MACHO..... Sometimes it's merely to have a coin from a famous collection or with a significant provenance

Here's something to whet your appetite... at least you'll have a picture....

Here's mine for comparison.....

Satin refers to the reference number in a book by John Jerrams.. "The Early British Bronze "Bun" Pennies 1860 to 1865 (Inclusive) And Their Varieties" Satin Reference - Compiled and Produced by John Jerrams

I have 3 different editions.... 1999, 2001, & 2003... the most recent...... Occasionally, one will appear on Ebay....

Reverse

Here is my specimen... I sold my old specimen which was in worse condition (damaged planchet) than the Crocker specimen for about what the current bid plus premium is right now. Obverse....

Definitely no earlier than Obverse 6 - notice that the head is the usual bun penny distance from the linear circle; on the first 5 Freeman obverses, it sits much lower from it (one of the defining characteristics of 1860 pennies for example). The 1860 dated F-17 is a die pairing of 6 & D, so the obverse 6 DOES appear on 1860 dated coins.... The 1861 varieties paired with obverse 6 are reverse D (F-29), reverse F ( F-32) , and reverse G (F-33)

Looks like an F-33 Obverse 6 Reverse G

It is my understanding, (assuming that my information is correct), that this is actually a SECOND known specimen, the original specimen that Freeman notes in his book being in a collection for many years....

I currently have one of each .....

Nice coin you have there Gary. Interesting that with both our coins the reverse is a lot weaker than the observe. Thanks....

and the reverse...

Here's mine....

Many Thanks to ALL for your kind wishes....... Gary

A few weeks ago on ebay, I sold a lower grade specimen for $949 (US) (A duplicate from my collection) see link.... Link to ebay listing of F-38 sold for $949 maybe Chris can use it to establish values in varying condition for this variety

I have this Partial Brockage GB penny up for auction this week.... Essentially the same type of error as the 1917 US penny that you linked to........ Partial Brockage GB Penny on Ebay......

I would tend to agree with Dave's assessment...

Here is ANOTHER mis-attributed Bronze slab.... I only WISH it WERE what it says on the label....

I'd like 2 copies please..... Shipped to USA