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  1. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Here is a link to Michael Gouby's page on his website with information regarding the 1909 pennies... Link to Michael Gouby's information page on the 1909 pennies Please ALWAYS acknowledge source material. especially on the web, as people work hard to maintain it and they deserve the credit.......
  2. Bronze & Copper Collector
    The F-169 (1909) IS listed in the 1970 edition of Freeman... The F-164A (1908) is NOT listed in the 1970 edition of Freeman.... As a point of interest the 1922 F-192A is NOT listed in the 1970 edition of Freeman either....
  3. Bronze & Copper Collector
    The primary question with ANY of these "rare" varieties is not how many were minted, but rather, how many survived in an identifiable condition, so as to be of desirability to a collector....... Sometimes, the only numbers that we can base any calculations of rarity upon are the number of specimens that are known, and not estimated mintages.....
  4. Bronze & Copper Collector
    I suspect Michael Goulby has 1 and the British Musium plus mine so we are up to the 6 now, must be some more out there. Gary, i don't suppose you have a spare 1908 164A tucked away somewhere I wish... I had a damaged specimen, which I sold when I got my current example......
  5. Bronze & Copper Collector
    I have a specimen, sold a second one (in worse condition), and know of at least one other example... So that makes 3 of which I have firsthand knowledge.
  6. Bronze & Copper Collector
    This is the 1873 Obverse 8 with Reverse C#
  7. Bronze & Copper Collector
    I recently acquired what is possibly the 5th known specimen of a Half-Penny variety, unlisted in Freeman but acknowledged by Dracott in his Half-Penny study.... An 1873 obverse 8 paired with reverse C#. What I later discovered amongst some coins that I already had, but passed over because it was not an obverse 8, was another 1873 Half-Penny with reverse C#, but paired with Obverse 7... UNKNOWN & UNLISTED till now..... See attached scans......
  8. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Thanks, This was an upgrade.... My previous specimen was the one linked earlier in the thread....
  9. Bronze & Copper Collector
    F-39a full reverse
  10. Bronze & Copper Collector
    F-39a close-up of overdate
  11. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Here are images of my 1849 1/1 and 1849 4/4, I do NEED a specimen of the NORMAL undoubled date, if anyone has one they are willing to part with...... Please contact me here and I will send you my email address..... Thanks....
  12. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Here is a 60x close up of my specimen..... not in as good a condition as that shown, but the overdate within the 0 is clear....
  13. Bronze & Copper Collector
    I have an 1849 1/1 and an 1849 4/4, I do NEED a specimen of the NORMAL undoubled date, if anyone has one they are willing to part with......
  14. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Perhaps it would be more correct to say that "Currently. the whereabouts of only about 10 specimens are known" or maybe even more correctly " Only about 10 specimens are currently accounted for"
  15. Bronze & Copper Collector
    He would be your best source of CURRENT information.... In fact, if I remember correctly, he contributed the current pricing data in the 2006 edition of Freeman's book...... On his website, he remarks that approximately 6 specimens are known of the F-169 and no mention of quantity known of the F-164A
  16. Bronze & Copper Collector
    R9 (in Freeman's scale) is 7001 to 12000 ESTIMATED..... In the case of the F-169 and the F-164A (an R5, estimated 50001 to 100000), I believe that there are LESS than a dozen KNOWN of each, possibly as few as 8-10, although there has NOT been a reliable census mage on these in many years if at all, and the only census referred to repeatedly is from John Jerrams book on Victorian pennies and their varieties from 1860 to 1865, which sadly, with new discoveries, is out of date.....
  17. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Genuine Specimen...
  18. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Close-Up
  19. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Here's another example of what is probably an EXTREMELY RARE coin that is in EXTREMELY POOR condition, so much that the variety can be debated ad nauseum..... 1862 die letter A to the RIGHT (NOT Left) of the Lighthouse.....
  20. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Both Dates
  21. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Just in case it helps, here are some images of an 1909 F-169 for you to use for comparison.....
  22. Bronze & Copper Collector
    It's an EXCELLENT additional reference book.... I'm constantly referring to mine........
  23. Bronze & Copper Collector
    I believe a lot of US collectors will pay 'Top dollar' for rainbow and otherwise toned coins. I remember a while back, a Churchill Crown with rainbow toning making $500 in a Goldberg (I think) auction. It was then offered for sale in an ebay shop in the US. for about $3000. I think the Curchill crown sold on teletrade for about $500+ and is STILL being listed on ebay for about $3000
  24. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Hussolo fairly accurately summed it up in a brief and concise manner....... Always try to to stay with the major TPG's, but bear in mind that they are not always conversant with all the varieties and often enough mis-attribute them.... In any event, always buy the coin and not the plastic....
  25. Bronze & Copper Collector
    Based on the image and with nothing contradictary, I would tend to agree that it is a 5/3.........
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