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You can't price something that is unique, and all of these types are unique. If the subject matter was more appealing it could do £100+, I would guess yours would be in the £20-£50 region though.

I know the seller He also has a convict penny on there for just under £2k

Chris the big problem is that none of us have crystal balls or we would all be extremely wealthy! The best investment you can make is buying something that you like in the best grade that you can afford. If that happens to be a Queen Anne Guinea or a George I Halfcrown it does not matter. As long as you like the coin you will never lose on it. The best guide to buying anything in the antiques/collectables world is eye appeal. If you like it the chances are that somebody else will and when the time comes to move it on it should go at a decent price.

Choice "I can see the leaters (sic) B-R-A" no doubt for the tit he thinks will buy it

Acquired today as part of an interesting exonumia collection.

This is all marketing crap. If you really want to show the buying power of silver, why not use the 1980 $/£ adjusted figures? When the market peaked at $50.35 intra-day on 21st January 1980 up from its low of $4.50, then you can boast that it bought over 17 gallons of fuel. You might not want to tell the full story though, because it soon fell back to only buy 3 and a 1/2 gallons within a week or two. Or if you feel inclined, why not clarify the reasons why silver is going to increase in price by using examples such as this gleaned from wikipedia - quote "In April 2007, Commitments of Traders Report revealed that four or fewer traders held 90% of all short silver futures contracts totalling 245 million troy ounces, which is equivalent to 140 days of production. According to Ted Butler, one of these banks with large silver shorts, JPMorgan Chase, is also the custodian of the SLV silver ETF. Some silver analysis have pointed to a potential conflict of interest, as close scrutiny of Comex documents reveals that ETF shares may be used to "cover" Comex physical metal deliveries. This led analysts to speculate that some stores of silver have multiple claims upon them. On 25 September 2008 the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) relented and probed the silver market after persistent complaints of foul play.[22] In April 2010, Andrew Maguire, a former Goldman Sachs trader, went public with assertions of market manipulation by JPMorgan Chase and HSBC of the gold and silver markets, prompting a number of lawsuits.[23][24] In response to allegations of market manipulation from silver investors such as Max Keiser, Blythe Masters, Head of Global Commodities for JP Morgan, told CNBC in April 2012 "often when customers have metal stored in their facility, they hedge it through JP Morgan on a forward basis who in turn hedges itself in the commodity markets. If you see only the hedges and our activity in the futures market, but you aren’t aware of the underlying client position that we’re hedging then it would suggest inaccurately that we are running a large directional position."[25]" So you see, the market is invariably controlled by a few players who may change over time, but all have the same ultimate intention which is to get suckers to jump on board and buy their already overpriced metal in order to make a profit. Ultimately it will be the 'me too' want to get rich quick type of person who will end up the poorer. I think you are on the way there. If I have misread the situation and in fact you are operating a Ponzi scheme, I apologise for my stupidity in being unable to identify the type of scam involved. Sorry Rob, but, I have just read the bit of the post that you have highlighted and would love to know which garage Will refuels at? Silver is currently at £18.41/ounce and Will claims it will now buy 8 gallons of fuel... £2.30/gallon??? If you want to spout figures Will at least do your research/maths first.

Surely she meant to say (new) 'wife', John? If only I had the money..... in fact I think I would stay single and spend it on important things like good Malts, fine wines, Cuban cigars and fishing :D

Don't worry, I'm not a mason! What I'm saying is this. Unfettered opinion and genuine freedom of speech is being slowly but surely sidelined from mainstream communication and everyday life. This results in it being forced 'underground' and nowadays appearing on the nether reaches of the internet. The government is clearly not happy with this situation and has demonstrated every intention of wanting to police all such communication (witness the recent moves forcing ISPs to make data available). That's one step closer to allowing governments to open our mail, in my opinion. Whilst I most certainly don't agree with many opinions expressed, I will fight for the right to express them (to paraphrase Voltaire). You have in effect agreed with me. Why should we all have to 'sidestep' monitoring in everyday life. The UK is already the most surveilled country in the industrialised west, by the government's own admission. Ah, I see what you're saying. You're talking about the SOPA stuff (is that right acronym?). What you forget is this : if everyone who is worried about such stuff, whether or not they have anything to hide, set up several online identities, each one centred around a hotmail address containing fictional personal details, then anyone who was serious about monitoring us citizens would soon be chasing their tails. In actuality, if enough man hours were expended, such fake identities could be traced via injunctions served on ISPs (provided that the courts were presented with the evidence to furnish an injunction). However, this expenditure on man hours would entail more staff working on it than the entire Civil Service employs. For myself, I am endlessly grateful that the more limited effort that Government agencies expend, is to track down the activities of terrorists. Mike is quite correct. It only takes a little nous to sidestep a perceived lack of anonymity, and anyway the Government is neither interested nor has the resources to spy on the likes of us. As for people 35 or under, many hurl all their personal details into Facebook, so the lack of privacy there is self-inflicted and I have no sympathy with anyone who falls foul of scammers, government spies, or anyone else, if they don't have even the basic idea of personal discretion. A more pointless waste of human existence I (thankfully) have yet to encounter. My wife is 39 and has never read a book in her life but will happily spend 5 hours a day (every day)reading total pish about her friends/acquaintances and family on Brainf**k Facebook. Whenever I casually ask her WTF the point of the drivel is she tells me to "get a life, and see what's happening in the real world" Facebook, the real world???? Shit I think I must have taken the red pill by mistake

Therein lies your problem Will, you are on a coin collectors forum! Like Rob, I am a dealer. I have advised clients where to put money and over shortish terms they have all seen an increase of up to 100% on some purchases. They don't particularly care if the bottom drops out of the market though because they like the coins that they have bought. You may get a bite or two in here, but I doubt it. If you want some silver to buy do give me a call though as I am sitting on about 2 kilos of lower grade/scrap and also have plenty of silver proof stuff in stock.

Not to my knowledge. You just have to go on your own research/experience. The vast majority that turn up are Newark, with probably half of the ones you see having been holed for suspension. Scarborough is the rarest hence the seemingly high price. Carlisle is second hardest to acquire and if anybody has a spare I have a customer waiting Should have bought the one in the last CNG sale. $23K hammer wasn't over the top for a Carlisle and that one was quite a decent example. As for Scarboroughs, most are in museums or places such as the ANA collection thanks to Norweb, so the rarity factor is magnified. I think on the whole though, 1 or 2 pieces is the norm for each denomination known. I saw it but his pockets are not that deep! I think he could go £8k-ish if anybody would like me to broker a deal.

Not to my knowledge. You just have to go on your own research/experience. The vast majority that turn up are Newark, with probably half of the ones you see having been holed for suspension. Scarborough is the rarest hence the seemingly high price. Carlisle is second hardest to acquire and if anybody has a spare I have a customer waiting

Funny, cos i have mine on the bay at a fair price and only 3 offers, and way less than i'm prepared to let it go for, so where are those buyers?I did turn down 1000 GBP on account of the fees incured and the guy did'nt want to pay by bank transfer so another 60 quid would have went down the swanny, so i had to decline If buyers are paying a premium they tend to want a premium coin Dave. Unfortunately the Newark pieces, although scarce, are the commonest of all of the siege coinages.

I don't know Debbie, it reminds me of the wife, the obverse does anyway I quite like it too, but I don't know quite where I could sit it in the collection. If I put it up on the bay I will drop you a PM. I have just had a good look at an enlarged picture and it looks like the 2/1 variety!

They don't step down. It is like being Pope or an annoying tit like Simon Cowell, a job for life! They only abdicate if they are shagging an American divorcee and I think Liz is a wee bit long in the tooth for that one.

I saw that on faeces book Same thing I believe Peter, a total load of shite

The priority scale has to be like that for armed police Peck because we worked in pairs, the army work in squads. If we arrived at a job and put ourselves in a position where the outcome would be death or serious injury there was nobody else left to protect the public (nearest ARV being 20/30 miles away). Obviously if your partner went down you would try to help him/her and that would put you in the firing line. Your first priority is yourself, then your (armed) colleague(s), the public and finally the subject. We have/had to protect the subject as the aim was always a non-violent solution. The subject also has the "right to life" unnder ECHR. If an officer does pull the trigger their next action should be to secure the subject and render first aid (we were all trauma first aid trained). 99 times out of 100 there would already be a sterile area around the subject and an unarmed outer cordon in place. Would I risk my life for a member of the public? Yes, I did, many times. I did not consider personal safety at all when I was in the job UNTIL it was a firearms incident where I had greater responsibilities.

Absolutely spot on, Peck. The problem with the shooting of Mark Duggan is that the entire proceedings is shrouded in mystery. Was he a gun toting low life chav on his way to despatch a rival gang member, or was he, as you say, an unarmed man who was the victim of a planned police execution ? Who knows ~ in fact we don't know and will have to wait for the inquest conducted by the (apparently) unbiased IPCC. We do know the police can be trigger happy on occasions and have "accidentally" shot dead innocent men. Harry Stanley and Jean Charles de-Menezes spring readily to mind. You're also right about the banks. I daren't use all the adjectives I'd like to use about them, because Chris would probably (and rightly) ban me. The current austerity is down totally to their greed and profligacy. Nothing to do with Tony Blair or Gordon Brown, everything to do with them. They are the reason the rest of us are suffering from a decreased standard of living, and seeing our incomes squeezed. What's more, as I said a week or two back, not a single word about them paying back what they've shafted the public purse for. I would so like to put Cameron on the spot over the banks and what they owe the British people. As far as I can tell, those who have paid into the state second pension and its predecessor, SERPS, will not lose out on what they have contributed ~ so they could still end up with quite a bit more than £140 per week. The real winners will be those who are already in a solid occupational pension, who have been contracted out, and who are set to reach state pension age after 2016. They will cream their works pension, and the full £140 per week in one go, having paid nothing into the increase. The ultimate winners will be guys born in most of 1951, all of 1952 and the greater part of 1953, who will be the last to benefit from drawing their (noe enhanced) state pension at age 65. I know about this because I'm currently engaged in a project about it at work. This is organising a pre-retirement course for older workers. Not sure why they've given it to me, but although slightly incredulous at first, I've actually found the entire subject, extremely interesting and productive of a lot of useful knowledge. Useful link here Having worked as an armed response officer for 8 years I'll just stop you there. The former was "bigged up" by witnesses to sound like an IRA terrorist. The mainland was getting hammered at the time. He was challenged by armed officers in the street and reacted by raising the table leg (which was in a bag and reported to police as a sawn off shotgun). I would have dropped him stone cold. The latter was the subject of a bungled surveillance op and was believed to be a suicide bomber on a packed train with a primed device. The strike team were ORDERED to shoot. I would have taken the shot(s) also because 1 life is definitely worth less than dozens of innocents. As for Mr Duggan I have no inside knowledge as I am out of the loop now, but "executed"? You need to have a word with yourself Mike. A police firearms officer is faced with split second decisions, life or death ones. I worked on the ethos that the priority was 1) my life, because if I get dropped I cannot protect anybody 2) my colleagues 3) the public and 4) the subject. For a firearms officer to pull the trigger there has to be a genuine or perceived immediate threat to life. There is no shoot to kill, as an AFO you shoot to "stop or incapacitate" the subject. An AFO is also subject to the laws of the land and you always ran the risk of being charged with murder if the wheels came off. Pulling the trigger is the very last thing that any of us wanted to do and it was the very last thing that our training primed us to do.

Thanks again! I have made a donation to the North area charity for you. I will let you know when the coins arrive. A forum member kindly informed me you are a trusted coin dealer, so I googled your username and found your website. You have some very nice coins in my budget for me to consider... I am probably just blind, but I could not find your postage costs, are they available to see in the checkout process? The postage is added at checkout, BUT, please buy from Chris before you come to me. If it wasn't for Chris running this forum you would likely have taken a long time to find my website. Any business I get as a user on here is nice but I am mainly here to talk to/help fellow collectors. Thanks for the donation up Norf

Peter, Very, very sorry but the only 1719 farthing I had has just gone off to Mongo. It was only nearly Fine and not worth bothering about. There were also a couple with Queen Anne on again only nearly Fine. Sorry, John.

Thanks! Thats very nice of you, I will send you my details in PM. With the UNC decimal coins, its not the value that appeals, but more the look of a bright shiny unused coin... Its interesting really, I had never even taken a second look at any coins in my pocket, but since taking an interest in coins, even a nice looking 5 pence that I got given as change yesterday is nice to the eye!..... I just done a quick google, I can donate some money to the charity via their website here: http://www.midlandsairambulance.com/shop/?c=20 Is this the correct air ambulance charity? Thanks again I live near Penrith in Cumbria and in the area of the Great North Air Ambulance. http://www.greatnorthairambulance.co.uk/donate BUT you can donate to your own area if you prefer or an area wher you think they especially need it (Snowdonia for example if you are a climber etc). Any money to any area is a help. I will post your goody bag today John.

Peck made a good assessment in relation to your purchases. Your question regarding where to go next is a bit of a personal choice really. Coinery was quite right to say that you will never get rich nor die broke if you continue with small cost purchases. If you are in it because you like the history and design of our coinage the selling price when/if you move them on won't really matter. Decimal coins I wouldn't really bother with unless you think you can build a good collection based on what you can pull from your pockets together with additions from ebay/dealers. I will have a bit of decimal stuff in UNC lying around together with some UNC late pre-decimal stuff that I would send to you for free as long as you drop a couple of quid in the next Air Ambulance box you see. If you are interested send me a PM with your name and address. Buying from Chris is a safe place to start. Fair grading and prices (and a generous host to all of the degenerates on this forum ) The best advice I can give is buy the coins that you like the look of. Price is irrelevant as long as you enjoy what you acquire. I am too young to have pulled gems from my change but the older members on here usually count as their most treasured items the mid-grade scarcer dates or types that they were given as change. It's not the cost of purchase that counts but the value to you.

Any offers then? Trouble is, at 1.15 x 0.9 m (45" x 35", though being a tryptych it folds to half that) it doesn't exactly fit into an envelope, so postage will be a bit. The snake buckle belongs on the left with the rest of the found objects. I bet Damien Hirst is shitting himself looking at that You mean shitting himself and framing the result in a glass tank, don't you? I thought that was his entry 2 years ago for the Turner prize?

Any offers then? Trouble is, at 1.15 x 0.9 m (45" x 35", though being a tryptych it folds to half that) it doesn't exactly fit into an envelope, so postage will be a bit. The snake buckle belongs on the left with the rest of the found objects. I bet Damien Hirst is shitting himself looking at that

It appears that the obverse is the side with the Roman soldier with his septic septor and his toga and his missing lighthouse and trireme Wouldn't it have been simpler just to say "part of beaded border missing"? Not so much fun for us though. Interesting coin though, is that a common thing, missing beads? On iPhone again, but looks like a good grade....who bought it, then? I have to confess to not knowing and never checking Stuart. Shite like that just goes straight into a big box to pass along to some poor sap at an auction

This is from his about ME page, choice; "Trust is the most important thing that a person has in life. I hate lyres, thieves and con artists. If you do not have trust. Then you are nothing in life. Yes, we all are human and we do make mistakes. Remember, one thing " Human is to error and to forgive is divine". That was Gods worlds. Thank You Nicholas If I ever make a mistake on Ebay site. I will go above 100 percent to correct my mistake. I want to make everyone one happy here, and make them money and more. Give everyone a great deal! Thank You Nicholas" Well Nicholas, I do not like Lyres either, harps are good though