VickySilver

I watched most of this and was a bit surprised by some of the price fetched in the later penny series for what I would call "grading prices" (ie, slabbed grades high with cameo, etc.) and also the value estimates given to later 20th C. crown proofs, varieties etc. They appeared IMHO unrealistic and as far as the crowns appear that a number did not sell. I did get the 1965 OMS brass (Jamaican penny flans?) as I have a pet collection of 1960s OMS strikes... Thoughts, anyone?

Thanks for that maestro. I strongly suspect such and only wished that when it came time to sell that I "knew somebody"...

Yes that appears so, although a series of one makes it hard to generalize. You may be on to something however.

The thing is, we have now all seen here and elsewhere (can you say "Heritage"?) where the TPG grade becomes all important, adding multiples and zeroes to the price fetched. In my series (late pre-decimal silver and to some extent copper) I have seen many cases with grades assigned, both high and low. Some are spot on, but the ones to either side of the curve are concerning. The other thing is that although I am not completely upset with them, I have really come to wonder if the submitter, despite all of their protests, can influence grades to some extent - at least on occasion.

I thought the same thing about the Churchill - a "66" ought to be a superior coin, and although better than most agree this one not better than a couple of the MS65 coins I have seen. There were a couple of other questionably graded coins IMHO.

YEs, was shocked at the Wiener prices and knowing they are not Royal Mint products - I wish they would announce that prior to each Wiener lot. I love Vicky silver (surprise) but NOT these...

No edge issues. AU58 grade. This of course was from an era of great mint sport, so presume it also as such. I did buy a 1970 two-sided reverse penny that was an extremely well done fake however, and bought it bidding at major UK auction.

lol. yep

Ok, probably not exciting but here is a 1964 penny. Notice anything?

And don't forget the really hard times which she saw us through in the 20 years after the war and the doldrums of the 80s when it seemed the whole place was headed for the dumpster. Quiet strength and dignity meant a lot and still do. God Rest Her Soul!

I can not really fathom her being gone. I came to school in Cyprus at the Nicosia Middle School and remember that ubiquitous portrait that I (and probably others ) found so fetching. A young and healthy vivacious queen who has been in my heart ever since. God Rest The Queen! We send our Prayers and Love.

I would have mentioned it but Ugh! So little....

Always glad for happy collectors. I am not sure of value anymore, but hopefully they gain. I am of similar opinion about the currency 1981 10P....

Yes, in hand it certainly is and the coin is in a Capitol Plastics holder, not a TPG slab.

Scratches on capitol plastic holder

This picture doesn’t even look like a proof but it is.

That PCGS photo of the Proof 65RB is really sensational. I personally rather like the 1853 proof penny....The "off year" large pennies usually just don't have the aesthetics of this one or the 1839.

Their's looks a lot more red, many have actual pleasant tone from being in the cases I assume. I got one of these a few years ago when they were going for a song and looks similar to yours.

Yes, these are probably fair assessments. I am always surprised at the relative lack of interest in patterns and non-gold proofs (excluding somewhat pennies) of the 19th and 20th centuries. I suppose this cuts both ways for those of us that collect such - what we have does not attract interest of others and what we are seeking when found is not too dear. Not ever been too interested in cases really, but more power to those that are....

PS - I am wondering if some coins in this sale did not reach reserve?? I too registered to bid but that did not occur until AFTER the auction....Oh well I did not want to compete at many of those price levels anyway.

True is that. Many RM "records" either were rarely kept or not preserved.

Mintage has been reported in various sources at about 400 pcs.

Ah, Bruce, none that I know - I thought you were going to broach the subject of edge letter varieties. Recently for sale at auction was the "Hip Hop" variety: .....RENDER UNTO YO I have a specimen with virtually the entire edge lettering offset, basically struck twice into the edge. As far as up or down orientation, there would be no value assigned and probably be near to 50-50....

I don't really know about the BM and possible internet accessibility. That collection is absolutely incomprehensible...

Ah, yes, bordering on avarice there. I have FOUR 1984 Papua New Guinea proof sets that are scarce but not nearly as rare. Perhaps you might share some of your favorites with us?