VickySilver

My Krause says that KM 185 is included in the 2002 set - if it exists. No further confirmation on this. Another question that I have hinted at before: If mintage is listed at 500, or whatever it may be, is that the Royal Mint authorized mintage or the actual net mintage? Also, how (or is it arbitrary) does the Royal Mint distributes these sets? How many sold by them versus how many go to the Central Bank, B of J in this instance? Leftovers? What becomes of them if there are, and are these included in the released "mintage" figure? I hope a few people read this post and can comment...If not will post these questions separately.

Not sure if it is actually for sale as Heritage has a feature whereby others' winning lots are put up and THEY (Heritage) place that bit about putting an offer on the piece. I discovered this when out of the blue I received an offer on a coin that I never did have for sale. As a lark, I approved one for resale at 6x my buy price - well no takers....

NIce! I also agree with the 5/5 as the parallel top of the "under' 5 looks just that, and can not see a complete curve of a 6 below either.

Uggh, Peck, don't think it will work that way as you pointed out in the earlier bit of your post. As bullion values grow, the premiums are wiped out for numismatic value. Not an example dear to many on these boards, but this is what happened to the US platinum series fractionals through whole oz. 1997-2008. There was a good bit of interest in these when platinum was a few hundred USD and then the value of the metal crept as high as USD2200. Even though the price retreated to sub-1500, it seems all the nascent collectors lost interest in the currency bits despite very low mintages and no sign of any return. Also, can you imagine in way of example how the numismatic value of, say, a 1931 half crown in VF will crawl back into the picture compared to its silver value?

Yes, thanks. That does appear to be a die chip rather than a misplaced punch or other. Most will not get too excited by it, but a few may comment. Good looking out!

I agree, IMO the details on reverse crown details and esp G5's hair on obverse just do not look right. Could be photography but methinks the coin questionable.

The '56 penny went for what? Fortunately for me I didn't spot any "have to" bits....

I will not be a player in the upcoming sales as nothing of interest, other than maybe the proof 1853 1/2d, but there are a couple (well, three) coins that may be of interest to follow as barometers of the market, and perhaps readers might contribute others they noticed: - Baldwin, 1869 1/2d. This coin is near to EF or EF and is estimated at ?80 pounds? This is a fairly scarce to rare date in quite decent state of presentation, possibly a bargain to be had but will be ineresting for me to see how much interest is shown in a lower to mid-priced Vicky bronze scarcity. - St. James, 1908 2/6. This coin is also quite presentable, and nearing the EF preservation state. A decent, though not mint state coin that is fairly scarce but not rare and it is relatively lower priced as well. How much legitimate interest will be shown in this E7 issue, and possible indicator of interest for barometer of interest in this market. - St. James, 1934 5/-. This coin is an OK GEF or so example of a somewhat rare date but not in supreme presentation. IMO, values for this coin generally peaked a couple of years ago and interest mildly on the wane. Will this bring 3750 pounds? I don't know about others, but despite a posting elsewhere in these forums I feel not really great offerings in the Victorian and later pre-decimal coins. Some controversy about the DNW shillings, certainly. Were any of them cleaned/dipped and retoned? I did not see them in hand so really can't judge, just passing on some "scuttlebutt (sp?)". At least there were some interesting coins in the series, and would like to have had a couple....

Ouch! I was really broaching the subject of low-middle to middle market coins (if there is such a thing). Where are they going, is there sustained demand and how thin might the market be? I have done well selling over the last couple of years, but of course have been buying as well - carefully I hope, but seem to get different reads as to where its going. I think most, including me, believe that upper echelon coins are in good shape. It is the "collector coins" that I wonder about, and have been for a while now...

Oh, I do hope you have a deep pocketbook. A new "Bentley" in the making? God help us - I once saw a purchase of 10 sovs for over 16k pounds that were nothing other than die state advancement.....

Rob, what was your take on the quality of the DNW shillings?

No, but www.sixbid.com has all these listed...

Run, Forrest, run!!!! Or so was said in "Forrest Gump" Screams FAKE, this one.

Glad somebody else likes these bits...

Ah that is trick - posting photos - that I need a bit of help on. Maybe Sunday will give it a stab. Not for sale as part of a larger chunk that I've spent sme time and effort on.z

Yes, that is a 1936 proof wreath that was and is part of a 1936 proof silver set. Nice! Coin def. gem and lacking the telltale cabinet friction at the cheekbone...

Well, I wonder how many dies were left over versus how many new 1850 dies were used. I could be wrong but have the impression that each type shows up with about the same frequency (well maybe that's the wrong term!). I wonder this with the half crown 1848 and versus 1848/6 and the erstwhile '48/7....

"There should not be focal wear if this was due to time in a bag or light circulation and in a case where the metal did not fill it may appear flat, esp. with an harder alloy. "Newsweek Stands By its Story".

Deinatey no pat or stock answers as has been elucidated. You really just have to know your coins if you get into esoterica. Another example are the 1887 and 1893 5 sov pieces that have market prices everywhere (including outrageously high for slabbed "wondergrades"). What is the value of an uncirculated 1934 Wreath to bring it back to the OP? Well, depends on where sold, when sold, slabbed and by whom?, individual factors such as the usual lustre and strike and wear and tone, etc. Ouch, it can get a bit complicated. I know that I have on occasion paid prices looked at as very high by outsiders and then have the coin double or treble even on the wholesale side within 5 or so years, and some I could really name my price on...(and then of course, the odd loser that just stagnates or never does catch fire ). Collect what you can afford but study, study, take a few lumps, win a few, etc. I would not, in returning to OP, pay huge prices even for a "certain" proof Wreath of a non-1927 year. There just is not the demand, and the presentation not all that special compared to the currency bits. Also, very difficult to pin exactly what price should be paid. Having said that, I really did stretch for a "certain" 1936 proof some 10 or 12 years ago....Uggh, well, it's not for sale regardless.

Yes, my feeling as well. Perhaps the overdate a bit under graded? Nice date of shilling almost on par with the 1854 florin IMO.

But may trash your liver. Seriously...

Yikes, we have gotten away from the OP a bit! But, on a slightly related topic to that just broached, I think it interesting how little interest seems to be displayed in Regnal years for the Widow Head series. The 1893 LVII is fairly scarce to rare in GEF and above as an example.

That makes them a challenge, since they are not all that attractive and they need to lose the patriots theme, just like the USA needs to change IMO. Well, I will be a buyer for the 91 or 02 sets. BTW, PM me for a few other dates of sets that I have doubles of...

Ah, Peck, as they say, "My Bad"....I meant that in my estimate these should be R4 or so, more rare than ESC indicates...

Yes, that jibes with my knowledge. Not clear if they are out there or not. Not many, not much demand. That makes them interesting. Do you collect these? I need the 1991 as well, and missed the one on ebay not so long ago...