VickySilver

Don't forget the 1954 penny. Bull says there are ?two? 1952 currency half crowns known?? Also, there is the single proof 1952 halfcrown, last seen 1997. I am wondering where these more modern rarities as far as value. What are any of these likely to fetch & is 80k the magic mark? What should the 1945 currency 3d fetch?

OK, so are there a couple of bidders that will shoot for the moon, and if so how high will the bidding go?

Not really. Bull (the New ESC ) have some listed and Krause has some in the 19th and 20th C. are a couple...

Not to divert, but as far as OMS, there are some grey areas to be sure. Some were of a purpose, and others genuine errors and others "mint sport". Sometimes a coin may fit into more than one category. Examples of alloy testing OMS (some are specimen/proof, some are not): 1923 nickel 3d 1923 and 1924 nickel shillings (the latter in 5.0 and 5.7 gm) 1925 3d, 6d, 1/- of new coinage 1927 type in nickel 1922 florin in gold, 1927 half crown in gold (possible alloy testing for foreign coins); also gold 3d and 6d specimens from Pretoria mint 1927 OE sixpence in nickel 1946 1/-, 2/-, 2/6 in copper nickel all as testing for the upcoming copper-nickel general coinage of 1947 These are not cheap with the gold halfcrown being offered by Baldwins for 80k+ quid; the 1923 and 1924 issues in the 2.5-3k range. OMS mint sport or error can be had for usually 2-300 pounds, the decimal 1971 1 & 2p and others not so much. Blah, blah....

Yes, always good o share. I wish I didn't have so many issues with posting photos from my iPhone! I am so sad at losing my 1863 currency when that ---- ex-wife took what she wanted.I posted a picture of my proof on PCGS boards.

Please post pictures once you’ve gotten it. What was the condition on the 1863? I may have seen it but now forgot where.

Not a bargain basement spot....I've my own pet peeves with Atlas - the principal there can really be a b---- at times. He's also got an outrageous business model wherein he buys a bit high and then frequently triples, quadruples or worse the price on his list. I have seen some of them to be recycled in auctions at Heritage, etc. when he does not get his crazy price.

I don't believe that for a moment - IMO def. NOT a proof!

I agree with azda that the last QB design is rather nice. However Richard, this business of bringing out so much tart (garbage a better term IMO) seems to have been trialed, as far as luring collectors to the fold, by the Canadians and Americans amongst others and am not so sure of the successful results in their cases. As was said elsewhere on these forums, could they not have at least issued the gruffalo and snowman as medals & perhaps toned down the numerous sovereign offerings just a bit?

My problems with the Snowman, etc. is that they are severely watering down and "Canadianizing" modern Royal Mint issues in general and are propagating the problems brought up by "Strike on the Day" sovereigns, gimmicky finishes (like the mock matte finish), etc. Then the Britannia changes designs every year to declining mintages and NOBODY CARES - well, almost nobody. Then throw in the odd Prince's 5th birthday coin, etc. TOO MUCH MERDE!

LOL, wonder what the Landlord was talking about? Not females?? My wife when leaving stole my GEF 1863 and could never replace it (except with a proof).

Shame as this specimen appeared a bit nicer than those that show up (can't really use the term "usually" seen). I could see it at the 1500 level. One will show, but don't settle for a basal state example would be my advice. Funny story, sort of: when I posted my example on the PCGS boards a couple of years ago, one of the members [MacCrimmon] really dogged me saying he had seen any number of better specimens (mine an AU50). I guess he is more experienced than I, but I have never seen an uncirculated specimen that if uncleaned/tampered would have to approach 20k. That is just IMO too much money, and a level that the 1863 has basically already reached.

I - what did florin go for?

I'll vote cleaned/dipped and retoned obverse. Too many of these out there of better quality. PASS!

I haven't worked out the chemistry yet, but on copper-nickel coins like this submersion in a half-strength ammonia solution will tend to decrease the oxidation. It would be interesting to give it a go.

That is a lovely coin indeed. I will have to go for a "58" as there is essentially the most minimal of WEAR. The strike is not as a proof, but I suggest that key areas reflect this: brow, cheek, nose, drapery below bust and hair on the obverse, and the top shield (left and right margins) as well as the crown on reverse show what is IMO incomplete striking and NOT wear. The denticles are also high points that many descriptors omit, and these not completely struck up either which is giving the false impression of wear. There is an odd "bag" contact, but the fields very clean overall with lustre muted as one would expect. In short, I must admit this coin is not in the foci of what I collect, but if so would buy (at least with the usual caveat of it being a photo and not in hand) this coin priced as an AEF all day long.

These newer seem a bit better to me in hand, but thought (??) I had read somewhere about a change of plastic. I'll have a look and see..

I believe the "Gold Shield" PCGS slabs are hardened and more scratch resistant. Not advertising for them and they have their shortcomings, but I rather prefer the look of these newest generation of slabs from them.

You have to go with the extremely rare Canadian pattern dollar of that year.... Maybe INA struck one as a "private" pattern?

I agree with above: on first reading of it, I thought this might be a nice matte like the 1902 (sans the wiping) but instead they parade out a pink monstrosity. Also, is it just me, or do the features of George look a bit different, and uglier and cruder?

Yes, very good information and the basis for my own collecting. LOL on the 1927 Lion 6d as we had a auction shootout a couple of years ago - I lost on the silver version but won the copper-nickel "pattern". I can maybe do the 1979 article but it is not as good; the original 1983 article had some decent pictures that I couldn't get through so many generations of copying.

Yes, one time I waited SIX MONTHS! And they got it wrong!!!! After I had tried to steer them in the right direction!! I think that was on one of those 1920 "duck tailed" milling specimens....

The citations are as follows: The Numismatist, December 1983 Harry E. Spencer is the author. Pages: 2504-2519 There is a lesser leadup article: The Numismatist, August 1979, pp. 1662-1668. I can try to photograph these and send from my iPhone if interested I believe Mr. Spencer has likely passed away at this point as he would be 92 years old.

Sales tax is State by State. Virginia has none, Maryland 5%. So I use a Virginia address and don't pay shipping or tax - 2019 Britannia platinum was 872 USD as an example.

Yes, my point as well. I get the silver two pounds, the silver 10 oz, the gold one oz. and the platinum 1 oz. Very low premiums when bought on pre-sale, occasionally less than 20 USD per gold or pt. coin....