VickySilver

Wow, that picture really shows some lovely toning. IMO, preferred to the technically higher ranked/numbered pieces that have been mucked with or dipped.

Hey I like the fake! Good job Stuntman!

Well, I did get the 1863/1 shilling that was actually quite prooflike. Some numby years ago fingered it though. Also I got the 1841 shilling more recently that was quite proofy looking as well. A while back I have to confess to getting the MS64 1854 shilling (now I note Stack's has one in "65"! But have to see it). Jaggy hunts down the 6ds, but these I've largely finished so he does not have a lot of competition.The shillings I have been busy upgrading and pretty well know that series up, down, and sideways. Of cours I also got that "golden sixpence" 1843 half sov that Azda hosted a pic of on the Recent Aquisition thread.

LOL! Well, pennies are a rough go in competition for the better bits & DNW got my bank on a few of the silvers....

Nope, not a big player this time and only got some Ed7's. Really more into Vick silver ! LOL! But will chase some penny date rarities - not hypervarietals though, and SS got the only one I really bid on, which he wanted more than I....

Uh, well, they were presented with a bit more lustre than the actual items...Which were nicely struck, just that the metal surfaces on the actual coins are not as nice as the CC pictures.

Wow, that is excellent news. What numerical was it given? Are you to keep or sell? Which venue? I can see it quite possibly selling for somewhere above 6k.

The lettering is to my view clearly less distinct - follow the shape of the "legs" of the "W" in EDWARDUS as one example. Also, the shape of the top of the "I" and its top to bottom taper in "SOIT" is different. Also the top of the "H" in "HONI" left upright/leg terminus is different. I could point out more....

VFs not all that bad?

InterNumi - please find a better example when you can.

Maybe red arsed monkeys eating peanuts more exciting? LOL> Yikes, I think I might have skipped that hike!

The problem is that with so much wear, a lot could be done to wear down a counterfeit to even out the rough bits. This coin reminds me of those 1860's era half crowns that have now been generally debunked but that were so worn as to make ID possible. I remain suspicious.The milling does not look all that great even given the condition, and the lettering, esp. "EDWARDUS" just looks off and a bit wonky IMO.

Yes, I agree with even a bit of lustre about the lettering although tiniest bit of verd hiding in there as well.

Uh, 80k+ worth of curiosity I would guess....

I really hate to hear that but must say I was suspicious when Gibbons took over. Isn't that the corporate way - buy a firm, loot the goodies, dump the benefits and fire a bunch of workers? Hopefully all is well, haven't spoken to him for several months....

Hey, I just got a bottle of Chivas as a gift! (What does Semra look like?)......OK, ignore that.

Fine, with unacceptable harsh cleaning that nets it a fair.

Hey, I was just thinking (and keeping the late, great Prince), maybe her flip side is really fun - aka - SMF, and needs to be approached that way (the "M" stands for Mother!).

Yes, nice coin and probably the correct price. I wonder how much the ?PCGS/NGC 64 would go for?

Lazy me has not done the research, but are the "baglets" of ten or so being sold on eBay circulation quality coins?

Frankly, I'd accept the OP coin as uncirculated with some "bagging" marks and an average strike that was acceptably IMO dipped at some point .

I believe Heritage about 14 or so years ago the intact set sold; not sure about the other one which I think had to have been broken up in the 1992-2000 era. The biggest challenge is putting the cats back in the bag once they've been running around in the yard: I managed with the 1939 and 1946 sets and almost got the 1938.....

No doubt, however many of the sets DID seem to survive up until the 90s when they were broken up. I think the saddest was when one of the only two 1922/1924 proof sets from the Pretoria Mint collection was broken up (the one with the famous 1922/27 penny). The proof shilling collection I mentioned was a rather late entity that seems to have broken up quite a number of sets, including the 1941 - I bought those two shillings from Spink's offering and have not so far been able to find the other silvers.

Ah yes, and your Wreath in currency without cheek, mustache, or ear chatter with fully struck up flowers with stamens & crown cross detail is VERY hard indeed.

Of course, without stirring up a hornet's nest (I hope) a coin coin can be uncirculated without being fully stuck as technically they are not on the same spectrum. To have both a full strike and no "bagmarks" is quite the blessing. I have some specimen florins and proof as well from the 1942-46 period and they are quite nice as might be imagined....