"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for. Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers! But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices! see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc Was this a BIN as I can't see any bids on it. I wonder if the 8 page views is accurate. BIN with positive feedback I wonder if 'very considerate seller' means the coin was returned? Certainly should have been, but there again shouldn't have been bought in the first place. If you look at the feedback that he left for the buyer ("...Grateful for acceptance delay caused by wrong coin"), it shows that he initially sent the buyer the wrong coin. So, not only does he know nothing about coins, he's incompetent too. Let me think about this, the buyer wins the coin midday on the 26th, gets the wrong coin, returns it, receives the correct coin and leaves feed back all within 4 days.