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Opinions vary, apparently.

Thanks.

According to one poster on here XF40 equates to good fine - link to table Although according to other equivalence tables it equals EF.

Well played Michael. Sending a link to this site was probably the clincher.

Although it's not been withdrawn from sale yet, so presumably the seller is contesting the findings? Don't know how it works?

The relevant extract from the online chat I've had with e bay customer services is as follows:- 09:01:45 UTC Michelle

I got the same reply as Jerry. Here is my follow up New message to: lifeasas-64 It's our business if fellow collectors get ripped off because a coin is misrepresented as something it's not. I've reported to e bay. New message from: lifeasas-64 (54) iv had everything evaluated and been advised in detail on the value and specs of each item , if your not interested in purchasing it then I do not see the need to message me , iv seen the 'site' were coin collectors get together and bitch about peoples items and I find it rather pathetic and have reported various members , it would be a good idea just to mind your own business instead of concerning yourself with mine. many thanks Your previous message Hi, That's not a 169, and anybody who knows what one is, and is after one, will already know the difference. It's a very common 2 + D 168. A 169 has the base of the "1" in the date numerals centrally situated above a tooth. See Freeman page 55. Your coin doesn't.

I bought my 1869 penny from him in October 2015. Actually managed to knock him down quite substantially. He seemed OK.

You may also have missed this one, Richard. At any rate, it's not loaded on your rare pennies site yet:- The F30

Richard:- The F41 The F39A

Just been in e mail contact with the seller of the batch of lower grade rarities we've been discussing on here, and he tells me that - as I suspected - many of the coins came from the June dnw auction, including the F38 pictured above. Obviously those huge batches of bronze on offer yielded some great finds. What's interesting is that the F39A and F41 that were also sold on e bay last Sunday night, were not the ones pictured above. They were much inferior. So maybe he's keeping them for his own collection, or plans to sell them on at auction himself.

You've done a fantastic job Jerry. That's a really nice looking place in a perfect setting. Something to aspire to and well worth the cost.

I've sent him a message outlining his "error" - for all the good it will do.

I'm sure most will already be aware of this relatively recent initiative by London Coins, which is a full catalogue of coins and prices realised from their signature sales - full individual named collections. If not, the link is here Well worth a browse if you get time and haven't already seen it.

Indeed, although again, as Richard pointed out about the Michael Cole collection, this one was hotch potch as well. No sign of the Andrew Wayne collection, often referred to, comparably, in their offers.

No great surprise.

This one went on LCA for the same amount (hammer) in March 2014. A really nice one.

Here's the F38 I won earlier this week. Not a great specimen but extremely rare, and another Freeman type off the list.

Yep, that's a beauty and a stunning bargain, Blake. The obverse is near EF. Here's my VF specimen:-

My F76 isn't up to much, Blake. They are exceptionally difficult to get in any grade, and in decent grade, near impossible. Have you got a pic of your F69?

What irritates me is that the media are referring to this alleged row as though it was a hard indisputable fact, whereas all we have to go on are the utterings of extremely biased neighbours, clearly intent on stirring up trouble for Johnson, and no confirmation or otherwise from Johnson himself. Now he has momentum trash demonstrating outside his house. They should be dispersed by force, and if they don't go, arrest them and chuck them in prison Prove it or shut up.

Yes, he told me the same thing when he delivered the cabinet I ordered from him, earlier this year.

Allegedly.....none of us have heard this recording yet. The neighbours who supposedly recorded it are left wing activists - not exactly neutral - and if they'd been that concerned they'd have handed the recording to the police, rather than a newspaper. Another point, raised by a local, is the fact that all the property in that area is old, with very thick walls. Accordingly it's not easy to hear much through them, and what does come through is muffled. It needs thin walls to be able to make out individual words, even if shouted. I don't much like Johnson either, but I'm reserving judgement until (and if) the Guardian publish that recording in their e version.

Thanks Jerry - yes, I must admit I expected that one to go a bit higher considering its scarcity. But I suppose it's never been considered a "glamorous" scarcity. Nonetheless I'm very pleased I've finally nailed it. The mule price (£1125 and NF) didn't surprise me one bit. It was always going to go to 4 figures. Let's be honest they only crop up very very occasionally, and they do have a certain cache about them. The other prices were as follows:- 1861 F30 poor £105.00 1861 F28 NF £360.00 1861 F41 small date, poor £225.00 1874H F76 NF/VG £410.00 (if I hadn't already got one, I'd have gone for this, as they're so rare and only a couple or so known above VF) 1862 8/6 F39A Fair £273.00 1861 F32 VG/Fair £98.09 1861 F18 GF £51.22 (not bad, actually) 1874H F69 Fair/VG £59.00 1903 open 3, Fine £85.11

Did anybody bid/win an item in that sale of mostly scarce or rare bun pennies sold by Coopers Coins on e bay last night? Managed to get the F38, a specimen of which I've been trying to obtain for several years.