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Well, they've sort of put this one right, but still left one half of the erroneous image underneath.

Cliff, nothing of any interest. Just this:- English Coins : Auction 129 : Lot 1700 Date Sold Category Lot Description Sale Price 06/08/2010 Auction 129 English Coins Lot 1700 Penny 1881H Freeman 108 dies 11+M UNC with around 85% lustre More coins like this £225

Thought it was supposed to be KIm Jong Un, but it's dated 2004, so it can't be.

Another interesting one. Here the H is to the left and in contact with the linear circle, so it's top most part is practically underneath the 8.

Never seen one like that before ! Is it yours?

No problem, Ian. Yes, it's palpably higher than his Hb example on that page.

I found this one in an old LCA auction. The H is otherwise quite well centred.

Surplus post to negate the above, which I can't otherwise get rid of.

In the sense that with most of the 1881H's, the H was not dead centre between the two 8's, but distinctly to the left, nearer the first 8? Could it be a recut die?

Ring their general enquiries line on (01443) 222111, and explain the position. They'll let you know whether you can send it or not, and if you can, they'll give you a name. It'll be the Llantrisant address - details here Good luck, Brian and keep us posted.

Not sure what I will go for yet - I'll only be able to afford one, amongst a range of options, and obviously may lose out on that. One thing I did notice is this Freeman 79, which is not vastly different in quality to the one you sold me for £250, Guy. But just look at the difference in amount expected.

Which is a great pity, and why I much prefer, for example, DNW, who do have live bidding via an audio link with the actual live auction. The auctioneer accepting bids from off the internet and in the room. There seem to be far more internet bids than room bids.

On the reverse, definitely. But the obverse? may be toothed, which would make it a mule, and very rare. Phil needs better advice than I can give for cleaning it.

Yes. You'd think they would have some form of effective QA (Quality Assurance) over what had been listed, before it was released to the internet. I'm not usually a hypercritical person, as we all make mistakes, but the sheer quantity on this occasion, really does seem a bit amateurish. Hopefully, LCA will pick up on their errors and rectify.

Schoolboy howler of an error Can't believe they can be this careless.

I think I've been quite lucky, as I've paid nothing extra on the several coins I've bought from the US.

You might have a very long wait.

It's a fascinating subject, and because the environmental atmosphere in which they are kept can vary so much, it often appears that no two coins are alike. Coins "age" in often very different ways - consider for example "streaky" lustre, even toning or patchy toning. Not to mention coins worn down to VF, but still retaining lustre, or uncirculated coins with lustre so subdued, it's practically undetectable. Also, as Bernie quite rightly says, bronze coins do readily retain their lustre.

Indeed, that's more than an edge knock. It's as though somebody's placed the edge in a vice and tightened it.

I'd guess somewhere in that ballpark as well. But I agree with Matt, it looks terrible. Whoever buys it, it'll be for the rarity value only.

That's just the rookies

Probably a die flaw.

Well we've certainly got nothing to crow about

So all this talk about the Queen blinking and dust flying out when a Yorkshireman opens his wallet, is a slight exaggeration then ?