1949threepence

Welcome Jamie, you're in great company here

Yes. It's truly difficult to fathom that if the bidders were genuine, there are people who are really that dense

Apparently, the winner refused to pay up for an "AK47" serial No Well colour me surprised !!! ETA: Incidentally, as far as the guy who found his landline telephone No matched the last 6 digits on one of the fivers, evidently he isn't very competent at probability theory, by estimating the odds at trillions to one. I've had one myself in the past. Rare, but not that astronomic.

Paddy Power has Clinton at 2/11, and Trump at 9/2. His odds aren't going to be improving anytime soon.

Grading? 1949 - fine 1946 - aVF

Yep, they probably wouldn't use the retturned ones with the scratches, marks and carbon spots.

Very good points. It would be interesting to know how many organisations received the pieces, and under what written terms. You will probably get situations where the coins are left lying around in the organisations they've been sent to, and members of staff working there, just pick them up and walk off with them.

Not sure. Might be worth contacting the RM again for clarification. Obviously there are trial pieces going back to Victorian times and before, which have always been bought and sold without an issue arising.

Who is this ALI you speak of?

lol - the only one I've seen for sale was that DNW specimen (now withdrawn)

As it's now illegal to sell them, I doubt anybody will find one. Those that do have one or more, will probably keep them for the time being. No idea how many were actually struck for the various trials.

Yes - even so, they will probably be scarce. I wouldn't mind betting that if most of the trial pieces out there are returned to the RM, it'll put a huge premium on those remaining. I'd quite like one myself, not for profit, but to own.

Funnily enough, I was just thinking the same, Pete. I know that trial coins from the past are bought and sold without a problem. It might be worth hanging onto any of these new £1 trial pieces, that are held privately, until the dust settles and the RM isn't bothered any more. Not sure when that will be.

Well that just typifies many business concerns. They will ignore the ordinary punter's query, regardless of its validity, probably without even a check. Only choosing to act immediately, on the diktat of a huge government office. As you say, the coin itself will probably be returned to the Royal MInt by DNW, with no recompense for the vendor.

The RM acted ultra quickly. Credit to them for that.

I think that's it now. After last night's presidential debate, Trump is finished. He has so mishandled his public relations, that huge swathes of the US electorate are now permanently alienated from him. No doubt he will say the election was "rigged", but there you go.

I guarantee that May will do almost anything to stay in the single market. Even if in modified form.

Has disappeared from "My Cabinet", where I'd deliberately saved it last night to see when it went. So yes, pulled.

Ready for release in March 2017.

Crikey I never expected to get a reply from the RM this quick, but here's my question:- and here's their answer:- So there you have it chaps. Dave's informant was spot on. Shouldn't be sold. ETA: Not sure why the time of the e mail is showing as 4.43pm, when it should be 9.43pm? Or maybe it's correct, and they replied almost immediately, as I doubt there'd be any staff on duty this late. I'd only just checked my e mails, so it was probably sitting there for hours, unread.

Yes - didn't there used to be a site called "hammersnipe", which auto bid on your behalf? May still exist. If I really want a coin, I leave nothing to chance, and will be there to manually snipe a few seconds before the end. An outrageously high bid at that point will not only win it, but take your winning bid amount to just the next level above the second high bid, and because you can see in the seconds before your bid, what everybody else is bidding, makes it more unlikely that another outrageously high bid will also be made in those final few seconds, independent of yours. Possible, but unlikely.

Just for good measure I've sent the Royal Mint an e mail, together with the link to the item in the DNW auction, asking a) if it's genuine and b ) if it's OK to be selling them. I say an e mail, but it was actually one of those irritating message facilities. Will post on here when I get a reply.

Interesting. Do you have anything from the Royal Mint confirming this?

Well I take back what I said originally, and give you this from the next DNW coin auction catalogue

Both him and Ted Cruz seem better than either of the present incumbents. You have to wonder how this situation came about.