chris

thanks rob all my decimal has been stored now, i decidied to wash ten in reverse osmosis water i use for my fish tank, (minerals have been removed) tell ya what they look nicer in these than the plastic capsules. all my main collection is silver and il be honest some of it im sh*te scared of even breathing next to in fear of damage. this is why i bought capsules for them. i have seen those quadrum capsules they look interesting but not cheap and the cases fo them are big and dont hold many coins, i might buy a few off ol andyjack later

just one other thing while we are on the coin flips, these are lighthouse branded and i am wondering now if i can store my proper collection in these holders. i do like to study at them quite a bit, even with having photos on my computer of them all, having it in the flesh is better. i currently hold all my collection in plastic capsules but after a few years they start to get scratched by the coin leaving marks, this doesnt do damge to the coin but is unsightly. whats the wear and tear like of one of these flips and also that plastic holding the coin doest it break down.

A wash in soap and water usually doesn't hurt, just tamp don't rub when drying i was thinking about that, i also have a marine fishtank and have to use special reverse osmosis water. this is mineral free. as these have only had a sniff of circulation i just want to remove anything that shouldnt be there the coins that have seen a bit more im not worried about.

It's either a late Edward I (Class 10C-10E) or an Edward II, really difficult to tell with this one, the face being worn, if it is an Edward II it's not Class 11, 12 unlikely as centre fleur looks more curved than wedgeshaped. Class 13 onwards more likely. Pictures in Coincraft really not very helpful for this. As my North catalogue is unavailable at present time I really cannot be more specfic than this, sorry! Difficult ones London and Canterbury as they were the main two mints and they minted most classes. cheers sylvester.much appreciated

im only a year into collecting hammered coins and all is well apart from pennies i just canot id them properly ive got three in total that i am unsure about i will add them one at a time 1s coin i think is a richard and i know its a canterbury but not sure of the monier any help much appreciated thanks

That would be true on a coin struck entirely without collar, but in this case it has only been unrestrained on the side where the design has been partially struck which has caused a slip in the design in one direction which has in my opinion caused excessive metal flow in that direction. See my stunning artwork This is my opinion of why the lettering has taken thse shape it has, and it is also worth noting that the effect gets worse where the distance between lettering and edge of the planchet gets less. As for the portrait not a clue, could it be the same effect? Has the design slipped making it look unusual? i really liked red rileys comment with the operative induction training die that would have been cool but ive been sitting down and compared different coins of the same date and i am going on Colins theory. if you look at the good photos i uploaded you can see the metal has spread out at twelve and six o clock. this is where the most prominent fishtails are due to lack of metal where as 9 o clock on the coin has the least ammount of spread thus details can be seen as it pretty much should

hi everyone have just taken delivery of a sixpence and as can be seen its off centre. on close inspection the style of the letters seem... well different. i have had a small ganders about the tinternet, compared my collection and have not found it simples!!!!! none of my sixpences have this style unless you go back a reign the date is 1872 die number 57 one other thing i am wondering is if when they change a reverse die did they change the obverse???

some good information from across the board and thanks everyone for the input. anymore opinions would be greatly appreciated. i have been trundling about and had found another example, different date but cannot find it again... this had the usual type face lettering though....i will find it again and update the coin is in a capsule and not slabbed. i keep all milled and early milled in capsules and me hammereds are all out just in trays oh and im waiting for those 2x2 flips to come through for my decimal which is taking too much space in my box

just weighed it at 2.8 grams i get the edge getting messed up and obviously theres no milling, its just that writing. im still on the look out for this die type with no luck yet. the seller has 100% and seems genuine. someone here has one?....maybe

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sorry about the photos rob, the coin has a gold/brown tone and i found it hard to catch the detail. will try again with some different light some better photos

sorry about the photos rob, the coin has a gold/brown tone and i found it hard to catch the detail. will try again with some different light

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thanks for that, thought it was aroud this area

last but not least canterbury edward penny once again a class would be lovely

this one i know is a london mint eddy if anyone could id the class that would be great

I agree with you Declan. I really would not feel at all comfortable selling one of those coins on E-Bay or elsewhere. To me personally, it is little more than profiteering. The same applies to me for the '20p Mule' as well. I am fortunate enough to have obtained one from my change. However, I could never personally sell it for a grossly over inflated price simply to gain profit. I personally think that if you were to purchase, for example, a Sovereign, and over a period of time the coin appreciated in its value and at the time that it was sold a profit was realised, then that is the order of things. However, to simply profit from a 'Quick Sale' of the type mentioned here, would leave not only a very bad tase in my mouth, but it would not bode well on my conscience either. Not at all well. I would never judge anyone for doing so. It is simply a personal point of view. il agree and disagree the only way to aquire coins is from someone selling them or friend/relative giving them to you. in respect of rob i would agree that spending £50 on an undated 20p is not on the top of his wish list. but would be to other collectors and sadly also people thinking they can make money later on in time. the coin i sold was not a "quick sale" in any respect or a way to make a quick buck, i even offered the buyer his money back before sending. as he was a true collector of error coins he was happy with the sale. the coin was no use to me and everyone is happy, i got a coin i really liked and so did the buyer. i will agree that there is a lot of junk being slammed through fleabay by scammers and what not. this does no good for coin collecting and puts misstrust from buyers whether you have a perfect coin that is year old or a thousand years old its only really worth as much as the next collector/dealer is willing to pay for it. thing is i am a true collector of coins and am constantly updating my collection and very often i will replace a coin with a better grade and then sell the lower grade as it is no longer required, sometimes for far more than the better grade, would this then be classed as wrong?.

well, not a new lizzy sixpence.. doh

i sold the 2008 5p for £255, bit spicy for my pocket but i had put the coin on for a silly £10,000 last month to see how many there could be lurking out there. in this i had turned down a £500 offer. personally i dont collect decimal error coins so i decided to auction the piece, started it at 99p once the auction had finished i offered the buyer a refund on the coin, as this was the first example to sell. the buyer was happy with the price and so it has been sent the proceeds have gone partly on a new hammered lizzy sixpence which i do collect and the rest will go towards our baby due in may.....happy days still, only four examples have been found

hi everyone chris ere coin is legit, three examlples have been found of this type so far... i dont suspect there are many of these floating about but who knows. this is the first to be sold to my knowledge and auction was sarted at 99p. not a bad result but if only a handfull are found they could be worth something pretty in the future

some photos now added

yeah got three over the years not an easy one to find. also there were two types of 20p in 92 with different size heads, the smaller head being the rarest. well as mintage figues go they aint a common coin to come by. they dont have much value at the moment but who knows, one day they will.

thanks rob as such i have had a few 20p coins that were 5 degrees off, multiples of cud errors but this is a whole 180 degrees off where it should be an il be honest ive never seen a five pence that is even more than a degree off really. its only that i check the change i get, since buying Mr Perkins book, i check the lot!!!!!

thank you Mr Goodheart for the reply. the main difference between the two coins is the "I" in sixpence. the normal coin is reverse F with the "I" to the right. the unlisted coin pictured to the right id a reverse D, "I" to the left.

i have been collecting coins for many a year now and have always wondered why some coins are listed as a variety and some not. i have an 1883 sixpence with a normal reverse which can be seen in the first photo, the second photo is the unlisted variety where they used the old die pattern