Peckris

Hi - the reverse is the same as the GB crown though? was there two types of aussie 1937 crown? Looks like a mule. How it would come about though, I'm not sure. OK, feasable, because presumably they are the same size and were struck at the same time by the mint. Oops, no. Apparently the Aussie coins were struck in Melborne. I wonder if someone has concocted it? What does it weigh argentum? Hi, the coin weighs 17.3g I've just noticed you only have 3 posts John! Have you re-registered with a new name? By the way, the true weight should be 28.2g

Awesome - on the cusp between hammered and milled. Gorgeous. Pity they're not all like that.

Sandwiches?? Who has teeth to eat a sandwich these days? I do - they came off a 1967 penny :D

True that they look different from our current coins. That's largely the difference between hand made and machine made coins. Wobbly edges. Parts of the design unclear due to wear or poor manufacture. But I think one of the nice things about coins is the link to the past. Here for example is a vary similar shield design. The first is a shilling of James I from 1624, the second is a pound coin from 2010. Apart from the lis of France being dropped from the design in the 1800s they are pretty similar I reckon. Why, in the upper right quadrant of the hammered coin, is there an image of a backpacker dancing to her iPod?

Superb Richard! Methinks you are loving your coins at the moment! Though I have to say that I LOVE that Geo III engraving of Britannia!

Most of my ladies have been happy with a bit of Suffolk purple vein. That's a kind of cheese, right? Actually a fruit. Well it is a peach (Best enjoyed with a piece of cheese, though :D )

I have emailed him twice. The first time telling him it was a pewter replica. The 2nd time asking him why he hadn't added this to the listing. Reported to ebay who do diddly. I reported it this morning too! He's a 'top' seller with a lot of feedback, bet they ignore it! What really annoyed me about this one was the blatant 'what is it'? You mean he couldn't actually read ELIZABETH on the edge of the coin and, putting two and two together (ie the date), realise it probably isn't Elizabeth II? And another! 170906386505 please do add link please! Link is here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170906386505?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D170906386505%26_rdc%3D1 Also reported by me. I cannot believe the earlier one went for £84 and this one is at £30+!!!! WTF are people who clearly know nothing doing bidding on replicas? There should be the equivalent of a driving test or you need to have your IQ checked before joining ebay. Seriously, I don't know whether I feel more annoyed at the sellers ripping people off or that these numpties deserve to get their fingers burned for being taken in. OK, because I'm nice it's obviously the former, but people need to learn before they spend. If I had a couple of ebay accounts to burn I'd relist using the seller's photos and a blistering description showing these things aren't worth more than the couple of ££ they cost at most museums and stately homes. It's now been removed.

It's a difficult one. What you have to remember when grading, is that there is a great difference between a new die and one that is near the end of its life. An EF from a new die will show as much detail (perhaps even more) as an UNC from a wearing die. I personally would grade that one as EF from minor flattening on the obverse, but it's not an easy one, for sure. As advised, that particular coin - along with the sixpence - is without question the commonest silver coin before 1936. You should go for a really good specimen.

Most of my ladies have been happy with a bit of Suffolk purple vein. That's a kind of cheese, right?

Your picture is even smaller than the thumbnail, and it's only 9k. You have 150k to play with - can you post a bigger picture?

Assuming you have a big library near you (large town or city), then ask for the Reference Section; you could also ask if they have any books on coins in it. A small local library may not have much, if at all. Two good books to start you off are "Collectors Coins GB" (it's a price guide for coins between 1797 and 1967, but there's a LOT more in it than just prices), and "Grading British Coins". Both books have been written by members of this forum, they are inexpensive, and would be a good start for a beginner. Click on the advert above (the picture of books).

I started from change, but that was the late 60s as a schoolkid! There was much more to look through back then. As time went on, post-decimalisation, I just started to buy coins I could never have hoped to find in my change - e.g. 20th Century coins in BU condition, plus a few older coins in less good condition. Then when I became a small-time dealer in the 90s, I would go to auctions to buy stock, but often keep the best stuff for myself. I've mostly concentrated on British, but I also have a small collection of ancients (Roman, mostly) and a few 18th Century trade tokens. The best advice is to spend time deciding what interests you the most, and meanwhile collect widely. Buy the best examples you can afford, but if you are collecting from your change, that will only cost you face value! Read some books on the subject, and maybe get hold of Rotographic's 'Check Your Change' (see banner advert above).

These are just a few of the delights from the reviews: :lol: :lol:

They will be dated 1967 as all predecimal coins were from 1967 to 1970. Unfortunately there are an awful lot of BU 1967 brass 3d's! They are actually a very attractive coin in mint condition, so there may be an outlet for them as souvenirs, but their coin value is around 20p each if you're lucky. But you'd never get that from a dealer! Try putting it up on eBay and see if you get any bites? Thanks for that Peckris. I assume then that the fact that they are in a sealed bag doesn't change things if they go as a single item ? The sealed bag simply ensures they are all in BU condition. The thing to be aware of is that in the late 60s, many dealers offered mint sealed bags of coins dated 1965 to 1967 for investment, and as a result there have been many offered for sale over the decades. Sadly they are so common as individual coins, they would take forever to sell. Your best bet is to try and sell the whole bag. If you got (say) 5 times face value, that means someone paying around 6p per coin. That's £100 for you, and a nice little earner for the dealer knocking them out at say 20p each, but it would take so long to sell them.

They will be dated 1967 as all predecimal coins were from 1967 to 1970. Unfortunately there are an awful lot of BU 1967 brass 3d's! They are actually a very attractive coin in mint condition, so there may be an outlet for them as souvenirs, but their coin value is around 20p each if you're lucky. But you'd never get that from a dealer! Try putting it up on eBay and see if you get any bites? Edit: the CCGB guide says they are worth £1 each in mint condition, but really, you would never get that. They tend to go unsold on eBay due to postage costs making it not worthwhile, but mint sealed bags you don't see on there so often, so it may be worth putting the whole bag on.

Only in mint condition would any of those be worth anything. Some dates can be worth from £15 - £40 in strictly mint condition, but if pulled from circulation they would only be worth scrap value.

I think that's a very good summary of the situation - yes, I'd be very interested to read more, and thank you for this. Great job.

Having been pointed in the direction of the free BNJ pdf downloads (2004, the article on 1787 shillings), I've downloaded that one. However, the pdf is a quarter GB and to download them all will take a lot of time and space. I've spent quite some time converting the 2004 journal from pdf to text, then deleting all the articles that didn't interest me and the 'proceedings' at the end. I wondered, is there an index to the BNJ, does anyone know? Alternatively, has anyone produced their own list of contents since downloading the whole lot? I'm really only interested in the English milled era, including tokens, etc; and in Roman / Greek / ancient. I'd therefore only download issues that contained relevant articles, and then do the legwork to 'convert & delete' from the text file. Just as a note of interest - conversion of the pdf to text reduces the size from around 250MB to around 1MB, quite a saving! You lose the 'look', but you at least retain the format of heading styles, article fonts and paragraphs, footnote styles, etc.

The first page (all written by women) are absolutely hilarious!! I'm surprised that BIC missed a trick and didn't incorporate a lipstick into the handle..

It would require a pile of CDs or even a few DVDs - there's a whole heap of GBs involved. As it is, I've already schemed to put the PDFs onto one or two memory sticks, but keep just the articles I want in text files on my computer. That way it's easier to find what I want, rather than plough through endless BNJ journals. Thanks to the index Nick pointed me to, that will be easier to achieve.

Yes there is. The link is on the same page as the individual pdf downloads. Or you can use this link. Excellent! Thanks Nick - I can browse that for articles of interest and then download the relevant journal at my leisure. I've already spotted a couple, one on Matthew Boulton, and one on George III evasions. Very useful, thanks again.

Welcome to the forums weebo I hope you enjoy your time with us, and that your collecting brings you a lot of joy. Remind me - what coins are you most interested in; are you the 50p girl?

Sorry AardHawk for the late response. Here are images of a different section of the coin, hope this is okay with you. Interesting - not only are the teeth clearly longer, the rim is observably wider too. Put those together and the two types should be fairly easy to tell apart?

Oh of course. I'm sure we can both agree though, that if it HAD been an inadvertent typo, it was a gloriously funny one!