Peckris

This is one of the Heralds :

Yes! I had those as a kid, can you still get them? I'm a Holland's steak pudding fan, but you definitely need two of them, with mushy peas of course David And do you remember Brains Faggots? Again, they had to be eaten with mushy peas or else it wasn't a proper meal.

Now I understand the 'Red Riley' moniker, Derek. Luckily I bought into a classic, from one of the brands you mentioned, at the bottom of the market in the early 2000's. Mine's also red and not been a bad investment despite the heavy annual service costs though, as I only drive it on the odd sunny Sunday, the cost per mile is something I don't want to know! There must be a few classic car owners amongst us? I became a Triumphophile for a while. I had a 1200 Herald saloon (two-tone green), a 13/60 white Herald convertible, and a 1500 Mk IV Spitfire. My one and only mechanical claim to fame was rebuilding a 13/60 engine around a rebored crankshaft using a Haynes manual. Well, I did it once - why ever do it again? I would have liked a TR6 and a Stag, but those were out of reach.

"Restrike" and "original" are not the right terms for a coin that was never out of production for over 200 years. According to the article seuk submitted and i quote "Various articles claim that the Maria Theresa Thaler was re-struck with an unchanged appearance since 1780. However, this is only really true for restrikes made after about 1850. Don't shoot the messanger I think that article is being a bit lazy with its terminology. If something is coined with "an unchanged appearance since 1780" (until 1849??) then it's hardly a restrike. Unless of course you also call many of the 1754 farthings, 1758 shillings, 1797 twopences and pennies, and so on, "restrikes", as they are in the same situation as Maria Theresa talers, only for a shorter period of time.

Oh I remember those! Soggy flaky pastry, mmmmmm. Actually if I remember right, there was a Fray Bentos S&K pudding which you steamed. Apart from being a little on the small size, it were reet gradely with new potatoes and peas.

Just an error Chris, a scarce error though. ahh an error, just looking, i made an error as well George I not II also the ssc is actually css No, that IS SSC - the initials stand for South Sea Company. sorry Peckris, what i meant is that the normal coin starts on the first quarter on SS or South Sea. The second quarter display,s a letter C for Company if you were to read my example from the date as a normal example, it,s then read C, then SS Ah, it depends on how you read what has happened. If you decide that only the sceptres have been rotated through 90º CCW, then you're right - the SS C are in the wrong place. However if you assume that the entire centre design has been rotated with respect to the legend and date (which is the more logical assumption), then that includes the SS C which are therefore in the correct relative position. In other words, they are correct in relation to the English arms, rather than the date.

Ah, you're talking about the Little Pub Company! That was Mad O'Rourke's empire, and a wonderful thing it was too The pie in question was called "Desperate Dan's Cow Pie", and was so deep and so hot (once you got past the pastry horns on the top ) that it was almost still too hot to eat by the time you'd got to the two thirds mark and were thinking "I can't manage any more". Am I right in remembering that you got a free pint if you could actually finish a Desperate Dan? Ah, happy days.

Just an error Chris, a scarce error though. ahh an error, just looking, i made an error as well George I not II also the ssc is actually css No, that IS SSC - the initials stand for South Sea Company.

Yeah, it's like A and A* at exams. The As are getting so common everyone GETS an A* now. Sorry Tom, I had to correct you... I think Tom was talking about employers, university admissions, etc....

If anyone of us could answer that question, we'd be millionaires tomorrow. For my part, I'm in the pessimist school on this one. Remember the 'never-ending bull market' and 'the end of boom and bust' we heard about at the Millennium? Look what happened in just 7 years. Philately - once ever more popular than coins - is now a shadow of itself. Economics dictates that demand simply cannot continue forever. The only reason for optimism (unless you're building a collection now) is that the supply of predecimals is not only finite but ever-shrinking; that doesn't guarantee that a demand will always be there (just look at stamps). Also, it would take forever for late 60s UK coins to find a demand to outstrip supply.

Why all the talk about pies? Is this anything to do with the much reported pastie scandal?

I had one of those 'veg pot' things today which had the nerve to call itself an 'Indian daal' [sic]. No! It was certainly a bit spicy and contained lentils / split peas. But it was more a kind of "what you might get in a vegetarian restaurant in Bognor Regis" sort of affair. I dunno about you, but to me a dhal should have oil seeping around its edges and have a strong taste of garlic! Both features sadly lacking I'm afraid.

I'm a newbie collector, so still trying to decide where to specialise. Doesn't help with the BOSS (wife) collecting with me, she goes for one's she like the look of. So far collection ranges from Roman through to the Silver 50p Proof. Personally I prefer Hammered (Post Roman) and early milled. Have had some luck so far and managed to pick up some bargains along the way. Picture of the 1845 5/3 posted but I haven't worked out how to get the detail, it doesn't show where you can see the remnants of the 3 under the 5, and I only paid less than the value of and straight 1845 HC "Hammered" really refers to medieval coins even though striking methods hadn't changed for centuries. Post-Roman - i.e. Saxon and Viking - isn't generally referred to that way. And the series are very different - I very much like the post-Roman coinage (though I can't afford it), unlike hammered, which I don't really. The designs and styles and proportions are quite separate.

Yes, but how does that stack up against the actual value of the metal content? Remembering that copper is now so high that people steal phone cables to get it.

oner = 100 notes = £100 That's a "ton" - where I come from, "oner" is "one".

"Restrike" and "original" are not the right terms for a coin that was never out of production for over 200 years.

really means.....we couldnt sell em so we melted em all down i wouldnt part with my unc or ef d/florins, however ive emailed the mint and offered them my entire vf collection of d/florins for a oner each, pointing out that they are worth much less than this, no reply yet Jeez, even the silver is worth MUCH more than £1.

Ok, so, basically Proof is Proof, so no curve balls in there...............Spelling.................weekly stuck? Weakly struck............strat, should read start?. Sorry, just making srue People who live in iPhones shouldn't throw scones

I'd say that its metal content is now worth more than 5p!

I would take these figures with a pinch of salt. If they were arrived at after a survey of coins in circulation, the accuracy would depend on the date at which the survey was done. The reason? Our fathers and grandfathers removing them from circulation as they 'may be valuable one day'. You only have to look at e-bay to see how many are still out there waiting for collectors to buy them - hundreds of thousands maybe. I was inspecting every penny I could get my hands on from 1969 to 1971 and didn't see any, not one! Clearly a survey conducted in 1920 would be more accurate than one in done in 1970, so if this was performed closer to the latter date than the former, you will need a great deal of help from your condiment set. Interesting! I was checking assiduously from 1968 to 1970 and I found : 0 x 1919KN 2 x 1918KN (rubbish condition) 0 x 1918H several 1919H but most were sub-Fair, perhaps two were somewhere between Fair and Fine

Hence the reason you got it for 6 quid. Strong coin but fooked at the end of the day Not at all. It's no worse than any coin with an overall patina. The colouration may be unusual but there would be collectors who would be glad to own it. Which is, after all, what this particular discussion is all about. I'm not in the market for selling it, but I'm prepared to bet I could get a decent price for it on eBay.

I have NO idea what's happened to this one, but I rather like it. I got it from Stephen Lockett's £6 tray some years ago; it was discoloured in a multi-hued kind of way, but only after it got silver dipped did it acquire this rather nice uniform hue!

Fully struck is probably one of the hardest of all to locate. The obverses (for reasons well documented already) are always very weak. My own is VF to the eye whilst the reverse is a well struck UNC. Mine is also a fully struck reverse with virtually no detectable wear. The obverse legend has absolutely no flattening whatever, but the hair is almost completely lacking. How you'd grade it? Nightmare!

The absence of any of these coins in my collection is not so much deafening, as blinding

If I had that cash to spare, I would. That's one of the best obverses I've seen for it. Nevermind that the 18KN is very much commoner than the 19KN, it's still a beaut. I'd give it houseroom!! Now you're making me wish I'd gone higher. I've missed out on several coins that I'd really hoped to acquire in the last week and have that frustrating serial underbidder feeling! You could always go for this one only £700 Gorgeous! Those highlights being reflected back off the ... off the ... wait, I can't see, it's blinding me!!