Peckris

This is an educated guess type of reply, rather than scientific but ... I have often cleared 'film' (i.e. grease, some dirt, or caked condensation, etc) off coins by immersing in surgical spirit and then wiping that off GENTLY using a microfibre cloth. I wouldn't use olive oil for what you plan to store in a plastic envelope, though a very thin film of it might do for coins in trays, but make sure you reapply every now and then - either annually or when you judge it's needed. But if olive oil is reportedly 'mildly acidic,' wouldn't a continuous film of the stuff eventually have a negatory effect? It's officially acidic (oleic acid) but I'm not sure the effect of the whole oil is acid? Not on metal, anyway. Some people immerse verdigris coins in it for months and the only ill effect is on the verdigris. As in Hugh Hefner's call for more and more Bunnies - "I need extra virgins".

Right foot, best thing for cats. Peck my cat is feral and the size of a springer....he kills rats,rabbits and mice.He can smell a cheesy wosit from 100yds. When he wants to sit on your lap..he does and brings tears to my eyes.He eats baby birds and fluffy bunnies...as well as fillet steak and salmon. Not so cuddly then

The rear view of a cat walking away is just so eloquent That's great - someone on here posted 'Victoria on a potty" not so long back.

OMG. Straight from a nightmare! Wow, I thought I'd never find a coin as ugly as the Susan B. Anthony dollar, I guess I was wrong! It's as if an engraver was playing around one day and thought "what would it look like if they crossed a person with a pig?"

The magnification I have available is not quite as good as the camera and nor is my eyesight for that matter, but I'm pretty sure that the foot of the upright and the leg of the R are connected. I think that there is also a slight curve upwards where the foot meets the leg, which is what made me think it may be R/B. I will try and get some more photos from slightly different angles to see if I can get it any clearer. I think this photo shows it better. A good case for R/B could be made there. However, don't also discount the possibility that parts of a letter can join up - look at the 'leakage' on the right of the base of the T; the same thing might have happened with the R.

Right foot, best thing for cats.

This is an educated guess type of reply, rather than scientific but ... I have often cleared 'film' (i.e. grease, some dirt, or caked condensation, etc) off coins by immersing in surgical spirit and then wiping that off GENTLY using a microfibre cloth. I wouldn't use olive oil for what you plan to store in a plastic envelope, though a very thin film of it might do for coins in trays, but make sure you reapply every now and then - either annually or when you judge it's needed.

Did you have someone round Peter? Round? Oh yes, I see what you mean Or perhaps that should be "straight round" as in "I'll be straight round"

OMG. Straight from a nightmare!

Never been in Spink AFAIK. It was in the Coincraft Catalogue and also CCGB but as you say, that doesn't go back far enough.

With all due respect, Alfred Bole was a collector. You, unfortunately, fall into the same category as 99.9% of us on here, ie you have a collection that includes some. A collector at Boles level will stop at nothing to obtain a missing variety and money seems to be no object. As a dealer I can probably comment with some degree of knowledge (as did Derek and Rob) on the popularity of Sixpences. They AREN'T! How times have changed! I remember in the late 60s, the humble tanner was a popular denomination. You can see its decline with the ratio that the 1923 6d holds in relation to its peers. While the 1924, 1925, 1926 halfcrown & florin, H & KN & ME pennies, have kept their ratio to commoner types in values, the 1923 6d has gradually dwindled. 1976 Seaby : most surrounding dates worth £5 in EF, 1923 = £16.50 2005 Spink : other dates between £12 to £15 in EF, 1923 = £20. What were the Seaby 1976 prices (UNC) for the rare years mentioned earlier in the thread? Unfortunately, Seabys only listed up to EF back then, except post-1937. It did give the usual caveat - preserved by Spink - "Prices for strictly UNC specimens may be considerably higher".

Iv tested the coin and it comes up silver even under the flakey bits. not sure why a silver coin would do this. iv found many silver coins but not one that has flacked like this one, strange. It's possible it had planchet damage - air bubbles or similar - that caused the flaking.

Rules that apply to paper are different than metal. Admittedly fingering coins won't cause structural damage, but will leave a deposit of slightly acidic grease which would ruin lustre or good toning. Coins should either be handled only wearing cotton gloves, or by touching them by their edges, and avoid breathing right over them. I prefer to store in a cabinet but you have to take them out to see both sides. (One advantage of plastic tombs, or of plastic flips.) Albums are good for the inexperienced beginner but make sure they are for coins, i.e. non-PVC.

It trickled down all day yesterday, but didn't settle. (Southwest). Some Patrice Evra ice this morning though.

Erm and are you trying to tell us something ? And there's me thinking that life was something you went through will you wait for something better to happen. And on a completely different note, I've just had this lovely letter today from Works and Pension telling me I've got to work another nine month before I can get me pension. f~@#ers Think yourself lucky Gary. By the time I get there we'll all be working till 80! Apart from the disabled, who will be quietly gassed while the Daily Mail still trumpets us all as scroungers.

With all due respect, Alfred Bole was a collector. You, unfortunately, fall into the same category as 99.9% of us on here, ie you have a collection that includes some. A collector at Boles level will stop at nothing to obtain a missing variety and money seems to be no object. As a dealer I can probably comment with some degree of knowledge (as did Derek and Rob) on the popularity of Sixpences. They AREN'T! How times have changed! I remember in the late 60s, the humble tanner was a popular denomination. You can see its decline with the ratio that the 1923 6d holds in relation to its peers. While the 1924, 1925, 1926 halfcrown & florin, H & KN & ME pennies, have kept their ratio to commoner types in values, the 1923 6d has gradually dwindled. 1976 Seaby : most surrounding dates worth £5 in EF, 1923 = £16.50 2005 Spink : other dates between £12 to £15 in EF, 1923 = £20.

Blimey. Magnetius as Elvis is one thing, but that wallah must be Gene Vincent with a broken nose

Many thanks John Very very nice example All grades or just the best ones? The market is still absorbing Bole's collection with relatively few collectors interested in the denomination. Pity - I really like em.But I agree, they are a bit on the small side. Not even remotely rare except in top grade. I was lucky enough to get a complete set of BU 6ds from 1937-1967 for £60 (W&W late 90s) including the 1952. I think I sold most of them ... except the '52 of course

Hi Jackie It ccould be a contemporary forgery - i.e. a silvr coin made from bronze, then washed in silver. There were a lot of these from 1816-1820, but I don't suppose they stopped then.

Can you post a link pls?

Being too new to this site to have taken part in the previous heated discussions, and holding back a bit, I would like to say that as a collector I hate them with a passion, for many if not all the reasons eloquently articulated by others. The first one I bought that was slabbed was immediately broken out of it (carefully I might add, with the aid of a hammer and chisel). But I can see the point for sellers, investors and dealers, if their integrity survives ... I'm old enough to remember in the late 60s, coins were offered sealed into slabs of perspex (which is probably where the term "slab" originates from, as the modern type you wouldn't describe as a slab otherwise - it's more of a sealed case or holder). It was a brief fad that burned itself out pretty quick. One thing that they didn't come with, was a TPG 'authenticate and grade' service, which may have helped the early demise. What goes around comes around.

It would be worth bullion value is what I'm thinking (despite a low issue of 1000). 1/10 ounce I believe, so whatever that's currently worth in gold.

You're a what?

I hate em for the following reasons : 1. they artificially inflate the prices of the coins inside 2. if you have cabinets, they won't go in them any way you try 3. you can't see the surfaces in certain lights 4. hard to examine closely for minute varieties 5. can't see the edges 6. photography is a pig, scanning is impossible The other side : 1. preserved from the elements 2. you can see both sides at once without handling

I'd say one was definitely a V. My guess is that the other is H - with the crossbar slightly pointed to echo the point of the V. If it was an M, the point is in the wrong direction, and I simply cannot see an A there. Beautifully engraved though.