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I, for one, collect decimal as well as all the other English milled, so I would be happy to go in for swaps. I actually only have 13 of the 2011 olympic 50ps, so I'd be looking for any of the missing ones. I don't have any spare olympics at the moment, but I can offer up a Girl Guides of 2010 and a 2008 Britannia. And before anybody groans about the britannia, be aware that it was quite a low mintage, prior to the new design and is, therefore, more difficult to find. Yes please Is that legal? Assuming they're 16+, perfectly legal Unless they didn't consent of course, but who's going to believe a girl guide's word over a numismatist? Oops this is getting into very shady waters... Isn't a girl guide under 16 by definition?! If so, even if they are openly gagging for it, you still get done for statutory! No, you're thinking of Brownies Girl guides can be big strapping wenches (so I remember, or was that just a dream I had...)

Just a small picky point, but this is the forum for British coin enquiries - there is a separate forum for non-British coins.

Plenty of women on the forum Debbie, a few disguised as men lol

It's just possible - but do remember that the sought-after 1946 mint flaw penny was an isolated example in an era where such things were simply not the norm. There are just so many slack products coming from the Mint now that I find it difficult to imagine they will ever be seriously catalogued. I'm willing to be proved wrong though.

Mathew, I can't possibly get to Stoke under any circumstances. So if you'd let us know what sort of stuff you have and what condition, that gives the rest of us a chance to bid on anything we might like to have. Thanks!

If you give us some idea of what coins you have, there may be buyers in this forum. Pictures somewhere online would also be useful, so we can see them.

Don't be hasty. Do you know how much tap washers cost these days?

Welcome to the forums Jackie That's not really an error, more an example of how lax the Mint have become in standards. It's probably a die crack or something like that, and the 5p is so small that probably the inspectors failed to notice such a tiny phenomenon until a large number had been minted. If you found 3 it's unlikely to have any rarity. Thanks for bringing it to our attention though. Hi Thank you for you reply. i must agree with you. yes it looks like royal mints standards have droped. the other 2 coins are different, one is die filled. and the 3rd coin the word penny is just a mess. I thought die cracks ect were classed as errors. now im confused. jackie There's more than one way of looking at everything! To some they would be classed as errors, but among the collecting community they would be regarded more as deterioration, or degradation; dies wear, or crud gets onto a die or a blank, or dies crack. To collectors, an error is usually regarded as something that is the result of human error not simply a machine. For example, blundered dates, or an overdate / overpunched letter, spelling mistake, design flaw - that kind of thing.

And 1950. Also don't forget that Edward VIII coins were actually issued in some African colonies.

Unlikely - what if the king / queen died suddenly, or some other event? It's almost unheard of for currency coins to be issued early (even the 1968 bronze coins in the blue wallets weren't current). Unlikely becasue that would risk having predated coins in circulation which by definition should be rejected by the person paid if they are half awake. Agreed. They were busy striking 1936 Geo V coins like there was no tomorrow (which is why they are so common). The only Edwards that survived were a few specimen brass 3ds, and a few ultra rare proofs. His main coinage would have been issued in 1937 if he hadn't abdicated - note that George VI used Edward's reverse for farthing, halfpenny, penny, brass 3d, shilling, and florin. The sixpence and silver 3d were totally redesigned which is probably why the George VI designs are so cruddy. The halfcrown used a slightly modified George V reverse. As for the obverse, it needed little more than a name change - the two portraits are virtually identical. That's probably why George VI's first year issues were able to be issued pretty promptly. Unlikely becasue that would risk having predated coins in circulation which by definition should be rejected by the person paid if they are half awake. Ok, that sounds plausible. Surely though, they would at least have made a headstart producing some dies for the new year? Or wouldn't they know what the demand would be at that point. Yes they would start preparing dies, provided they had already identified a minting need. But with 1849 and 1850 mintages both given as low, it is quite possible that a mintage need hadn't been identified - it may have been a rush job, last minute.

Welcome to the forums Jackie That's not really an error, more an example of how lax the Mint have become in standards. It's probably a die crack or something like that, and the 5p is so small that probably the inspectors failed to notice such a tiny phenomenon until a large number had been minted. If you found 3 it's unlikely to have any rarity. Thanks for bringing it to our attention though.

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See your PMs Garry

The very same..

No, but definitely fewer than the 685,000 figure that is stated in ESC and Davies. It is by far the rarest date of the Victorian shillings. Anyone like to make an educated guess how many are left? 2 or 3 dozen perhaps with the number in high grade in low single digits? Unfortunately the phrase "educated guess" begs more questions than it answers. There are just too many imponderables : - First, the stated mintage figure which as we all know is misleading and probably includes very many dated 1849 (approximately the same mintage but not rare at all) - second, the number that might have been swallowed up after 1920 or 1947 when the banks withdrew silver - third, the distorting effect of commoner dates being now less common in relation to 1850 as a result of collectors absorbing 99.9% of all remaining 1850s since the 1950s, but at the same time absorbing a much lower % of common dates, e.g. from 1966-71, 1980, etc - fourth, the lack of any Freeman-like survey AFAIK to base any educated guesswork on It's probably true to say "we'll never know".

I, for one, collect decimal as well as all the other English milled, so I would be happy to go in for swaps. I actually only have 13 of the 2011 olympic 50ps, so I'd be looking for any of the missing ones. I don't have any spare olympics at the moment, but I can offer up a Girl Guides of 2010 and a 2008 Britannia. And before anybody groans about the britannia, be aware that it was quite a low mintage, prior to the new design and is, therefore, more difficult to find. Yes please Is that legal? Assuming they're 16+, perfectly legal Unless they didn't consent of course, but who's going to believe a girl guide's word over a numismatist? Oops this is getting into very shady waters...

O, just checked my email account and the hosts sell domains plus hosting for 0,99c a month, so i've secured www.classicbritishcoins.com after my good old mate Dave, I'm liking the irony of your choice. Lol, i was wondering when someone would spot it I've only seen the corrected signature. What did the typo say - "cons" instead of "coins" perchance?

From the Philippines too! No way I would risk that one ... Pardon my ignorance (again) but does anyone know why the 1850 is so rare/valuable, the mintage wasn't particularly low? The mintage figures back then were for total minted IN that year, not OF that year. Many's the time the Mint used up a previous year's dies but they were still recorded in the figure for the year they were struck in. Is there any information out there, for example Royal Mint Annual Reports, that would allow more accurate mintage figures to be compiled? Unfortunately not, not official figures. The Mint would refer to their own records which would show the wrong figure. You'd have to rely on a Freeman doing a large survey, but those become less and less reliable over time.

Erm that is a rolleicord V Peck, mind you I also have a number of Russki copies of the hass and other brands here as well. Oh and a number of them new fangled Yashica Mat's and canons and erm, yeah, enough !. What was the difference between the 'Flex and the 'Cord anyway? I never used any TLR except the aforementioned Lubitel, so I'm not an expert. What I do remember - and lusted after at the time - was the very nice little 35mm compact that Rollei brought out in the early 80s. My first 35mm camera was the Zorki 4 - a very competent imitation of the pre-war Leica III. No lever wind, no meter, and a shutter speed dial from hell, but a great rangefinder and some very good lenses. I still have it, and its standard 50mm lens (the 135mm and 35mm lenses must have got sold off years ago). The flex had better lenses, bodies, auto cocking and wind of the film ( cords had a knob to wind te film so was not as fast as a flex when shooting), the cords also had no metering on them and the view screen was not as good or clear. Other than that just personal preferences I guess, I like the cords as they are cheaper to buy, but if I was to buy a rollei and mmoney was not a thing I would have a flex, I have a small 35mm Rollei round here somewhere, and one of those russian spy cameras as well, though how a spy hid that thing I don't know, they aren't exactly small. I have to go in the loft this week to sort it all out for selling so will take some pics before I do. Unlike the Minox huh? I did once consider buying into the Pentax or Minolta SLR 110 system, which I reckon would have smuggled into rock concerts easily enough, hidden down one's undies! Never got around to it though.

I, for one, collect decimal as well as all the other English milled, so I would be happy to go in for swaps. I actually only have 13 of the 2011 olympic 50ps, so I'd be looking for any of the missing ones. I don't have any spare olympics at the moment, but I can offer up a Girl Guides of 2010 and a 2008 Britannia. And before anybody groans about the britannia, be aware that it was quite a low mintage, prior to the new design and is, therefore, more difficult to find. Yes please

From the Philippines too! No way I would risk that one ... Pardon my ignorance (again) but does anyone know why the 1850 is so rare/valuable, the mintage wasn't particularly low? The mintage figures back then were for total minted IN that year, not OF that year. Many's the time the Mint used up a previous year's dies but they were still recorded in the figure for the year they were struck in.

Erm that is a rolleicord V Peck, mind you I also have a number of Russki copies of the hass and other brands here as well. Oh and a number of them new fangled Yashica Mat's and canons and erm, yeah, enough !. What was the difference between the 'Flex and the 'Cord anyway? I never used any TLR except the aforementioned Lubitel, so I'm not an expert. What I do remember - and lusted after at the time - was the very nice little 35mm compact that Rollei brought out in the early 80s. My first 35mm camera was the Zorki 4 - a very competent imitation of the pre-war Leica III. No lever wind, no meter, and a shutter speed dial from hell, but a great rangefinder and some very good lenses. I still have it, and its standard 50mm lens (the 135mm and 35mm lenses must have got sold off years ago).

I've got three Geoff Hursts, two Martin Peters, two Bobby Moores, but no Roger Hunt yet (...I'll rephrase that...). Swapsies anyone? I'm afraid there's no bubblegum left in them by the way...

Probably the same person as that eBay seller :-)

It's probably so hard to spot that I can easily convince myself I don't want it.