Peckris

Post a picture, Pitprop. Permit people to perceive in person.

Show off. lol - exactly what I was thinking! Nice penny though - Azda's that is... Sorry Jay, yours is a touch umm beaten up?! Nice rub with a bit of Duraglit and you could put a good shine on it. Probably make a extra grade with ease. Why??

My vote for the dullest varieties are the 4 types of 1937 penny, or is it 3 or 5... Apathy r Oh God yes - so exciting that no guide features them. And none is rarer than any of the others. YAAAAAWN.

There are pictures of his body and a video of his burial. However he was not an active commander and he wasn't doing much - killing him just got AQ very pissed off. Apparently the pictures of his dead body (head) are so gruesome that they can't show them in the media, plus it might inflame tensions. One radio interviewee said they should make them available to the media at a separate showing so the media can verify the matter, but wouldn't be allowed to publish.

The 3s may fit but what about the teeth, they are not in the same place. Good bit of Photoshopping Gary - that first picture shows (to me) how different the two 3's are. It's like the 1926ME obverse - hard to tell at first, but once you know them, they are clear as daylight.

I've no idea what a CGS 85 is - I didn't know there were any farthing varieties for Geo VI. The standard 1938 farthing is worth about £8 - £10 in BU - it's probably the scarcest of that reign. I don't know what you mean by "88 / 90".

Yes the diagonal milling is standard for 1806 currency pennies and halfpepnnies (which it could be - the size is the giveaway.) 1806 copper is quite plentiful, as it was a large issue of copper, the first pepnnies for 10 years, There's a lot about, and they only START to get a value above Fine condition. Damaged coins aren't worth very much, especially holes. You would be able to pick up an 1806 penny in Fine for a few pounds, a halfpenny for even less.

Everything depends on condition in this game. But your late dates aren't worth a great deal even in mint condition. The earlier sixpences might be worth a few pounds but ONLY if in strict mint condition. 1952s are scarce and worth a few quid in average condition. Scarce dates for silver 3ds are 1925, 26, 28, 30, but again, you'd need them in pretty near top condition. The halfcrowns look the most interesting - there weren't any minted in 1865 so that one would be VERY rare! Any dated before 1920 are full silver and worth their metal value in whatever condition. From 1920 to 1946 they're 50% silver and worth half silver value. But we would need to see pictures of them as without seeing the condition it's impossible to say what they're worth.

Its an extremely poor example of a 1863 bun penny and of negligable value. Back to work tomorrow I'm afraid. {Waits silently, without saying a word} . . . . . . . "Hey, do any of you guys see a die number below the date ... ?" "Where? Where?" "Just appearing out of the grot just below the 6 to the left a bit" "Oh God, yeah I see it!" "Nope sorry, guys, I don't see anything there" "Well *I* think it's there, but I wouldn't bet my life savings on it" "Hm, what does Gary say?"

You only have to look at the shape of the 2 in a 1902 penny to see the 3/2 theory is total oblox! I'll post some high res pictures later nuff sed! David I mostly work with 18th century coins but to me it looks as a wreak strike of the 3 punch corrected by hand. The same punch may come out quite differently due to the angle of the strike and later engraving. I'd have to disagree with this - if you study the two 1903 types, not only is the '3' a COMPLETELY different shape, but actually the whole date is different. The other numerals are essentially the same shape, but are more slender. They must have started even more slender as all 'open 3's are fairly worn and this would make the numerals look thicker. To me it's a whole different attempt to do the date, which didn't work.

There's also something on the curve,on the outside If you want my opinion Dave, there's no trace of a 1 anywhere there

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He certainly doesn't like full stops, does he. It's the "sorry for the grammer it should read a little batterd" that gets me. It's always funny to see anything corrected with yet another misprunt (sic). HAVE NEVER ATEMPTED TO STRAIGHTEN EDWARD THE ELDER That's odd, I always thought it was Edward II who needed 'straightening'? I THINK LOOKING IN I CAN MAKE OUT WHAT LOOKS TO BE A HAND No you muppet - that's yours, holding the coin so it can be photographed

Didn't even know there was such a thing.

Definitely an open 3... I was the under bidder at £310 and rather hoped to get it. Now I wish I'd gone more as it's the best I've ever seen too, especially the obverse Have to agree Accumulator, nice OBV, not seen a better one as yet. This guy is stating that this is an open 3, i'm not so sure it is. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280667045407&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D280667045407%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 Clearly not an open 3. I like his caveat "I have been told this is an open 3 but I am no expert" I might email him and tell him it's actually an Aston Martin DB9S in silver Definitely not an open 3. But it might be Gibbon's Decline And Fall Of The Numismatic Empire Will we be seeing you on telly tomorrow Gary? (Well, not me - I shall be in Tesco with any other local republicans )

It looks like an 'open 3' to me. Can't see anyone paying £330 if there was any doubt.

Oh Lord yes - in the same realm as 1922 pennies with 1927 reverse, but even rarer. Far rarer! Unique?

Well, presumably he was responsible for the condition of the coin as his id proudly states. What is more worrying is that it has 4 bids already. Still under melt price though Rob (which is where I suspect it is heading). Hopefully that will be its final destination - for the benefit of all. Do you think it's the famous Raised Tin Proof (Duraglit)?

It isn't a mule because the obverse changed in this year. A mule occurs when 2 dies that were not intended to be used together are in fact utilised eg. the 20p with no date, or the 1711 3rd bust shilling. In the case of the latter, the 4th bust was introduced on Anne's shillings in 1710 and so the use of the preceding obverse die in 1711 would not be expected. I have no idea what you two are talking about. I've just checked Check Your Change and Chris only lists a single type. There was an obverse change in 1985, and again in 1998. There was not, to my knowledge, in 1992! Dave Groom's book p.210-211 refers. Thanks Rob. I've had a look, and it makes me about as thrilled as the two types of 1953 obverse. Excuse me, I feel a yawn coming on...

At least one will be out there somewhere, I would put money on it. It has happened with all other varieties (except for the obvious die number coins etc) and I am sure it will eventually happen with the 1903 open 3 so keep looking!!! this one just gone for £330!!!! Dread to think what one in decent grade would go for David To be fair, that's the best condition one I've ever seen. The obverse is VF and the reverse GF so I'm not too surprised.

You've had some great advice there. I'd recommend going for a type collection (one of each major type rather than a date run) as it will bring greater satisfaction in a shorter time. These are items you could go for, which won't cost you an arm and a leg : George V : 1915, 1916, 1918 Edward VII : 1902 Victoria Old Head : 1893, 1901 Victoria Jubilee Head : 1887, 1888 Victoria Young Head (later) : 1874, 1875, 1885, 1886 George III (small head) : 1817 George III (Bull head) : 1816 (dates within a reign are 'OR' rather than 'AND' - in keeping with type collecting) The ones you will find hardest are Victoria (earlier) though 1844 and 1845 aren't as hard as the others; William IV - 1836 is your best bet; The three types of George IV are middling : I'd go for 1820, 1823, 1826 myself. Then you're heading back into early milled which is a whole different ball game.

So true

It isn't a mule because the obverse changed in this year. A mule occurs when 2 dies that were not intended to be used together are in fact utilised eg. the 20p with no date, or the 1711 3rd bust shilling. In the case of the latter, the 4th bust was introduced on Anne's shillings in 1710 and so the use of the preceding obverse die in 1711 would not be expected. I have no idea what you two are talking about. I've just checked Check Your Change and Chris only lists a single type. There was an obverse change in 1985, and again in 1998. There was not, to my knowledge, in 1992!

I am still kicking myself that in the late 90s, when sovs were worth less than £50 BV, WHY oh why didn't I start a type collection ? I would not worry too much Derek. There must still be countless 'accumulations' from the 60s yet to appear in auction lists, with all their pre-47 low-grade silver. And I'm sure it will be a cold day in hell before supplies of pre-20 silver dries up. A lot of people just don't have their finger on the pulse of precious metal market movements.

There's no such thing as "normal boring common examples" - gold sovs either have a coin value which depends entirely on rarity and condition, OR if not at that lofty height they have a BV (bullion value) which would apply to any gold sov of any reign. You're talking about BV I think which you would need to look up the latest gold prices for. (I don't know the relevant website, but I'm sure you can find out via Google)