Peckris

The only issue I have with it is why there isn't a '0' on the end of the sentences. And if we did it every time, we might clear these kinds of people away permanently, leaving the country a whole lot nicer place to live. The physical (extended) article arrived through the letter box today. Now I'm in receipt of a few more facts (assuming the reporting is true) I'm inclined to agree with you. The person assualted has brain damage and can't write or perform tasks safely with his hands such as making a cup of tea. The two offenders had 14 and 3 convictions respectively since 2002. 2 years is ridiculous, and why you can't take previous behaviour into consideration beggars belief. If I pick up a speeding ticket or tickets, they take those previous convictions into consideration and if enough points have accumulated I get banned. I'm clearly more dangerous to society than someone who is liable to assault you without warning or due reason. I've tried to keep out of the more 'hang 'em flog 'em' aspects of this thread, but I agree with you Rob, that's patently absurd. The previous convictions are rightfully (IMO) withheld from juries, but the judge would know all about them when coming to pass sentence. Either the judge was a wet lettuce leaf, or what you said first about "assuming the reporting is true" has a bearing.

That's Azda's, apparently.

OMG, wasn't it just? Downright plain ugly! That wasn't the reason. It was actually the first stage of an intended decimalisation. Florins - as one tenth of a pound (the legend on the first issue) - were to replace halfcrowns, which is why there are no halfcrowns for 25 years until popular support demanded their return in 1874.

Josie, I'm not an economist but this much I do know : For inflation to occur, there must be underlying trends - the most common one is an expanding money supply outstripping manufacture. Also, it can be caused by over-spending governments, interest rate changes, etc etc. For example, the increase in petrol prices is causing price inflation which continues for month after month. Then there was the increase in VAT, which will cause inflation for a few months until things shake down (i.e. an increase of 2.5% on all items that are VAT rated). Now let's look at decimalisation. The change affected prices at the level of less than 50 pence (remember - the 50p was introduced in 1969 and was a straight swap for the old 10/- banknote). Below that level, prices in whole shillings converted EXACTLY to their decimal equivalent. the ONLY opportunity shopkeepers had to artificially inflate prices was where - at the level of less than one shilling - the old money did not convert exactly to New Pence. Most shopkeepers would certainly have rounded prices up to the nearest 1/2p. We therefore had trivial price inflation at the level of a few coppers, for one month only. While this was going on, the Heath Government was busy bailing out Rolls Royce and other British companies, failing to control the money supply, giving in to wage demands, etc; shortly after this there was a big Middle East conflict affecting the cost of oil all over the world, plus in this country, a miners' strike, a 3-day week, huge cuts in productivity, etc. Now, how can anyone claim that decimalisation caused any significant inflation? It was one straw in the haystack of inflationary conditions that co-existed at the time. It was an urban myth that spread at the time, was something that 'ordinary people' could pin the blame on readily, but had no basis in reality.

1872, 1881, 1883, 1884, 1886 - they are all affordable florins.

and now the picture with the right Date! That's interesting. I checked both my high grade 1911s yesterday - the one where the I of BRITT points clearly to a space has a slightly hollow neck. Whereas my non-hollow neck penny has the I of BRITT pointing to the left of a tooth. Just how many 1911 varieties are there???

Seems to be a refuge for the exceedingly banal most of the time. I joined it to see what colleagues were saying about whom, in their spare time. I figured if I was there and showing my face regularly, they couldn't say too much about me Interesting. My experience is different. I'm in touch with a childhood friend, a former classmate, a former lover, family and friends too far away to get to see, and sundry people I've met there, all into 70s music, and politics, etc. I find that little community is vibrant (I said VIBRANT - wash your ears out) and full of stuff to join in with.

True, I believe. The adjective comes from a troublesome Irish family who lived in London in the C19th I think... So did my Irish ancestors; we might be related. Oh, the shame of it... Ah, but you could just as easily be related to "Hotlips O'Hoolahan" of M*A*S*H fame! Oh wait, that was fiction...

True, I believe. The adjective comes from a troublesome Irish family who lived in London in the C19th I think... Yes! My etymlo etymollo etimologi dictionary confirms this.

Hear hear. Yup. That Richard Heller recycled the tired old worn out old argument about inflation being caused by decimalisation. What, for more than ONE MONTH??? Absurd!

It's short for Application, the ancient and traditional name for a computer program

Horrid! Been artificially lustred at some point to 'enhance' its grade.

I never had that experience with Colin. What I will say is that if I had ANY problem with any of his coins, he'd refund me, no questions asked. As you say - sadly missed.

Doubt it - most of the time *I* can't read the damn things either! Oops, perhaps I'm a bot ...

Ah you young 'uns! Nothing to beat finding your first 26ME in your change especially if you have the damn thing a whole year before you realise it's the ME not the common one.

Wow, your local butcher's sells wine by the glass???

Nope - about 10 rogue posts in British Coin Discussions still. Unless "I want two men" is an obscure discussion about double-headed coins?

This is an urban legend. There's been 4 portraits of the Queen used since 1953 - on the third, from 1985 to 1997, the Queen is showing wearing a necklace on the billions of coins in circulation. This myth arose due to a delay in producing the first currency £2 coin in 1997. Due to technical problems they had to recall them and thus the whole issue was delayed. Everyone *thought* this would make the 1997 £2 coin rare when it finally appeared, especially as the new protrait had begun to appear for 1998 coins. Unfortunately, it didn't. The entire 1997 £2 coin issue finally appeared, but though this was the only issue with 'the necklace', there are millions of them. Not rare at all.

The first one was (if I remember right) in about 1997 was a great thick softback. It reappeared annually as a hardback for a few years but stopped suddenly and mysteriously. The prices were a bit odd - notably higher than Seaby but when Spink took that over and the prices started to shoot up, Coincraft mysteriously stopped theirs. But it was the first proper catalogue since Seaby/Spink, in that every type had its own reference number. And it had some good notes before every denomination, and in the introduction. It also had great buying advice for each type - things like "very common in Fine to VF, but genuinely scarce in EF or better", that kind of thing. Richard Löbel was the editor and probably the main man behind Coincraft shop too. I used to enjoy reading The Phoenix years ago - the blurb was entertaining - but never ever contemplated buying anything from it!

Paul was still active 10 years ago or so, and I did some business with him. Last time I met him was at Warwick - he'd just bought 3 BU 1921 shillings (the rare pre-1920 obverse) for £60 apiece. I wish I'd offered to buy one! but I seem to remember he'd got buyers for all three. Don't know where he is now. Wow I remember her adverts from late 60s Coin Monthly. As a schoolkid I seem to remember she looked 'hot', but then anything in a dress looks 'hot' when you're 17

Well do it up man, now that you know!

Welcome back John. Thanks for the confirmation. I was using Spink 2011 and ESC but it was still difficult to determine which head type, now i'm only quoting the Spink 2011 here which states its 3906A it also says "uncertain to exist as normal coin or proof?" So now it exists apparently although no price is quoted for this type. So should this now go into unconfirmed varities lol I think you can forget what Spunk says about this coin Dave. You have to remember that they are not experts in the field of varieties and they are not producing a reference book, merely a price guide. It isn't too long since that they totally arsed up pictures for the 1897 high tide penny and I had quite a few punters that year telling me they had one because it was the same as the picture in Spunk. In their defence it is a massive undertaking to compile the yearly price guide, trying to keep on top of market trends and new discoveries. Peter Davies and before him Seaby/Rayner have identified this type and I think I would trust their tomes a good deal more! I can confirm this - I got the 'high relief portrait / recut portrait' George V varieties put into the Spink book, and sent them scans of both types of 1921 shilling obverse (nose to S or VS) and they've got the two types the wrong bl**dy way round Then maybe Peckris, they also have those numbers wrong, as the 3906A is definately the coin we're talking about in this thread, unless they've adjusted numbers somewhere, but 3906A is the A6 type of extreme rarity, which incidently i bought My advice would be - DON'T JUST BUY ON WHAT'S IN SPINK! Check other sources first.

That Pathé News scriptwriter should be hung for bad puns : the reference to lambs and "mint sauce / Mint saw us" plus "outside broker / broke outsider" were totally groanworthy Interesting little film though. Looks as if lustre was imparted before striking not during it.

Welcome back John. Thanks for the confirmation. I was using Spink 2011 and ESC but it was still difficult to determine which head type, now i'm only quoting the Spink 2011 here which states its 3906A it also says "uncertain to exist as normal coin or proof?" So now it exists apparently although no price is quoted for this type. So should this now go into unconfirmed varities lol I think you can forget what Spunk says about this coin Dave. You have to remember that they are not experts in the field of varieties and they are not producing a reference book, merely a price guide. It isn't too long since that they totally arsed up pictures for the 1897 high tide penny and I had quite a few punters that year telling me they had one because it was the same as the picture in Spunk. In their defence it is a massive undertaking to compile the yearly price guide, trying to keep on top of market trends and new discoveries. Peter Davies and before him Seaby/Rayner have identified this type and I think I would trust their tomes a good deal more! I can confirm this - I got the 'high relief portrait / recut portrait' George V varieties put into the Spink book, and sent them scans of both types of 1921 shilling obverse (nose to S or VS) and they've got the two types the wrong bl**dy way round

Interesting. My first thought - before reading these replies - was "that's been re-tooled". But when you look at the state of the portrait and reverse, you'd have to ask, "why bother?" I don't have enough chemistry to argue with Rob's' thesis which sounds highly reasonable. I do have one observation though - if you look at the diagonal of the N in OMN: it appears to have been 'worked' (tiny chisel marks). Could natural erosion / corrosion cause that?