Peckris

I'm very impressed that you remember it was precisely £5/17/9d. Can you tell me what albums you sacrificed it for and how much they cost? I remember that one of them (which I still own) was the mono first pressing of Cream's Disraeli Gears. Not only a brilliant classic album, but in itself now worth somewhere around £60 - £70 ! Swings and roundabouts, hey... P.S. I seem to remember that albums back then cost 32/6 - one down in memory, two to go 32/6? You extravagant youngster. 19/11 in my day!!! PS: I've still got Disraeli Gears, but I think mine is the stereo version. If it's the first pressing it's still a respectable £40 or £50 in Mint condition.

It could be genuine (it's hard to tell from a low-res enlargement). But my instincts tell me it might also be a casting, i.e. a forgery. There's a number of them about, it's a date you have to be very careful with. Is it yours? If so, the precise weight would be useful. Also, what kind of sound does it make if you drop it (gently!) on a wooden surface? If it was genuine, it's in a nice GVF condition, which would place its value somewhere around £1500.

Hopefully this one is better. What does the edge look like - any line indicating a join? Possibly grafted with a private issue, similar to "double headed" pennies ?Masonic David I don't see a join, but upon looking at it closer I think the side was sanded down as there are rings like a record and then the new shield was engraved. Certainly explains why I haven't been able to find anything on this. Thanks for all the help! Yes - I think you're right. The obverse has been machined out, then recut to make a vanity piece.

The former home to R&L Coins, and Peter Ireland, too. Well worth a jaunt.

LUL

If you look carefully, what appears to have have happened is that a chunk has come out of the lower 3. It's a piece missing. The question is, did it happen at striking which would make it an interesting (but probably not valuable) misstrike, or has been gouged out since? hi i know what you are getting at with the chunk but would pinching out after striking account for the leg sticking out at the back of the lower 3 in the middle some friends of mine suggested that it may possibly be a backwards £ sign I think it may have been gouged on both the upper (less) and lower (more) portions of the right hand side of the 3, which might account for the 'leg' sticking out. Don't forget also - there are two reverses of 1913 penny, and it is entirely possible that the style of the 3 varies (it's so slight that at normal magnification you wouldn't really notice anything).

I'm very impressed that you remember it was precisely £5/17/9d. Can you tell me what albums you sacrificed it for and how much they cost? I remember that one of them (which I still own) was the mono first pressing of Cream's Disraeli Gears. Not only a brilliant classic album, but in itself now worth somewhere around £60 - £70 ! Swings and roundabouts, hey... P.S. I seem to remember that albums back then cost 32/6 - one down in memory, two to go

Are you feeling ok ?? One should never speak to soon, just made a purchase I think i'm officially an addict. Do i get any tokens from the Government to help me buy coins? Do you realise, if you remove the Oalit faction from the Government, you end up with Coin?

I should have been more specific - I meant mechanised, i.e. post-Boulton & Watt. If you look at all milled coins prior to then, there's a certain crudeness to their production technique, though the designs are often very beautiful indeed. For one thing, you rarely see a milled edge, they are usually not perfectly circular, the design is slightly off centre, etc. Yet if you look at that medal, it is machine perfect, and only a mechanised plant could achieve that. Something to do with outraging the puritans as I recall. In common with most men, the only feeling I get when looking at the Cerne Abbas Giant is envy. Really? :lol:

Very handsome. Victorian, would you say? I don't think so Peck as it would have been called a Nachprägung in German which it wasn't, so i'm assuming an original. Oops. I don't think so. Ask the opinion of others here, but I think you'll find that is a machine minted medal, technology that was unknown at the time of Charles I. And everything about it shrieks "19th Century" (to me at least). My educated guess is 19th Century, though no less handsome for all that.

I must get myself a Peck as soon as I can afford one. There are just two available on Amazon, both later editions than the original offered by argentum, and both more expensive. There's one in a little corner bookshop. The shopkeeper has no idea what it is and has marked it up for a fiver, although secretly he'd accept £3 for it. When I find it, I'll offer him £4.... I've managed Dalton & Hamer and Freeman, but so far Peck has eluded me, the rascal..... As a schoolboy I ordered a copy of Peck from the local bookshop for the princely sum of £5/17/9 - but I got cold feet, cancelled, and spent the money on rock albums instead. Roll on 30 years, one is in an auction at Taunton. Costs me around £95 to buy. Funnily enough, that £95 didn't make me wince as much as the £5/17/9 made my younger self wince.

That's very very inconsistent. The 1914 is way overpriced. But i can understand the 1868 - it looked EF and is a scarce date so less than £150 seems fair to me.

I was hoping nobody would notice my spellin mistake! I couldn't figure out how to edit the title once I posted...Shameful! Aww. There's always one. And it's always me

If you look carefully, what appears to have have happened is that a chunk has come out of the lower 3. It's a piece missing. The question is, did it happen at striking which would make it an interesting (but probably not valuable) misstrike, or has been gouged out since?

Very handsome. Victorian, would you say?

Peck has nothing to say about it. He rarely bothers with overpunched letters, just the occasional overstruck date.

I think you'll find that is VOCE POPULI (i.e. VOX POPULI = "voice of the people") Just sayin'

His "thesis" says it is vinegar and salt that does it, but vinegar on its own doesn't. I have to take issue with him there - I've used vinegar as a fast remover of verdigris, but the price is, it makes the whole coin noticeably lighter in tone.

I don't think you need Google - if you read the legend on the reverse, it gives you all the historical information you could want, including the precise date. There are a few dedicated commemorative medallion collectors, but it's a small field compared to coins.

Yes, that and the fact Germany never really 'lost' WWI in the conventional sense, we just managed to persuade them that they had. We tried to do the same to the Boers 15 years earlier - "right, we've captured Pretoria, that's it we've won, it's the end of the game. " They weren't having it though. Since we are now wildly off topic, might as well mention the Lusitania again, spent some time reading about it last night. It seems that in the 1950's, according to the local Irish fishermen, the Royal Navy spent two weeks blowing the bejesus out of the wreck with depth charges, prompting specualtion that they were trying to destroy evidence of something or other. What I guess we'll never find out, but one rumour that has grown legs, is that the Lusitania was carrying something it shouldn't have been under a neutral flag and that the high profile Americans on board were being used as a human shield. It is also alleged that the Germans knew about it and their embassy in New York posted an advert in the paper warning not to travel. Also interesting is that the wreck has been in American ownership since, it was bought for £1,000 in the early 60's. The problem is, there are so many conspiracy theories (a man smoking a cigarette on a grassy knoll somewhere near Roswell, confirms that man never landed on the moon, and that the US Administration was behind 9/11 ...) that good ones that come along tend to get ignored. The best I've heard in a long time, is the chain of events that led to al-Magrahi being convicted of the Lockerbie bombing - that one is chilling. (He was almost certainly a scapegoat, which is why he got cheered on his return to Libya).

Blimey. The chap's written a whole thesis on how to ruin your entire bronze collection by cleaning.

On that subject, I'm currently looking through a Giles annual, showing his cartoons from the late 40s to the mid 90s. In the 60s he did a cartoon inspired by the fact that Boy Scouts had been issued with new uniforms. The cartoon shows a Brownie Leader leading her pack of Brownies and saying, "We'll give them 'new uniform', won't we girls?" (paraphrase). The Brownies are all dressed in Bunny Girl costumes. THAT wouldn't get passed today! And let's never forget, if it wasn't for the treatment of Germany by the Allies after Versailles, the Second World War probably wouldn't have happened.

Another one I've never heard of, be interested to see the pictures Thanks for the info David I hope that this picture is clear enough, That 1934 looks like a one-off striking error. (Piece of lint or something filling the die for one strike only?). For me, that makes it even less of interest than a brockage. On the other hand, if other specimens DID turn up, then I'd find it interesting. After all, I have a 1964 sixpence where the I of GRATIA is missing, presumably for similar reasons? No-one here has suggested I might be sitting on a fortune. I shall watch the result of that auction with interest. If it realises a high price then I'm sending my sixpence to Colin Cooke for an online auction.

That works fine until the day your snipe just beats another using the same strategy. Then you find yourself having to pay the "stupidly high price" You only pay the price you want to pay Peck I was commenting on a strategy that involves sniping a "stupidly high price" - it COULD happen that your S.H.P. outbids someone else's S.H.P. by only a few pounds, and then you HAVE to pay!

Good God. I notice he isn't showing the reverse. Well even if it WAS the 2mm variety, I wouldn't pay £29.99 for it in that condition.