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Spink is only a guide really. I found when dealing that there are myths that prevail, and to be fair, Spinks are simply one of the many guides that perpetuate them. For example : 1936 pennies have a market value only a fraction of what is quoted, and are pretty much unsaleable unless BU. George VI pennies are almost worthless unless BU - ignore prices for EF coins. 1894 halfcrowns are very scarce and yet hardly rate higher than average for the series. Ignore prices for farthings in VF or lower from 1911 onwards. 1958 halfcrowns in AUnc aren't at all scarce, yet look at the prices! Bun farthings aren't worth what they are quoted in EF unless rare. 1754 farthings, 1758 shillings, 1787 silver, 1806 halfpennies, 1816 silver, 1887 JH silver - all really common, never pay catalogue value.

I was. Good for you, Derek. Unfortunately my disability rules out getting to London at all, but to be honest, who would have predicted those low prices?

Ah, the perils of copy / paste without checking! Though since he would have had to change the ENTIRE description, it makes you wonder why he bothered to copy / paste in the first place.

Some absurdly low prices there. Is the penny bubble bursting, or were there just too many going at one time? Wish I'd been there to boost my own collection. A couple of nice 1865/3 in reasonable grades (GF and VF) both less than £100. An opportunity missed By the way, did other people get caught out by their eccentric cataloguing? I was scrolling through wondering what the logic was, then I realised they catalogue in alphabetical order of denomination!

I can see enough bronze colour showing through at the edges to make me 99% sure it's a bronze halfpenny that's been silvered post-issue. It's in a nice grade, so if the date is right, and the price is right, and it floats your boat, go for it! Don't fall for any "Rare" BS though. It should be priced LESS than the regular issue.

No, apparently it's EXTREMELLY rare

Wow, that sucks - not even one? Mind you, those were damn rare items you were advertising for! I've just had a look at Part 1 of the sale - some very very tasty items in there! (One reservation - CCC are pretty hopeless with their grading at anything below GEF - some VGs there listed as Fine, etc etc)

I thought they said 'steel'? Ford Escorts were made of finest rust, as I remember.

If he really turned down an offer of £36,000 then he's a certifiable idiot

Never seen nor heard of that dot on trident 1922 before David Here's my 1922 Dot.... Looks like a drop of solder ... I can do that! Bernie, are you the same Bernie who had a permanent classified ad in Coin News some years ago asking for a London 1882 penny and various other rarities?

Not sure I follow your logic here, David? The accepted wisdom on all the "dot" coins is a transient fault caused by a bit of grit in the works. Here we have the same dot on an obverse with two completely different reverse dies Do we resurrect old theories re die identication marks?? I'm off on holiday next week, but when I get back I'll send high res scans to Michael for his comments, this is a very puzzling coin David Interesting. The dot looks far too regular to be caused by grit. It's the same roundness as the 1897 'dot' which is supposed to be non-accidental. But whatever the cause, it has got onto the die and thus appears on more than one specimen.

Definitely Reverse G (the shield is convex not flat). Even though it's one of the commoner types of 1861, it's in absolutely gorgeous state of preservation. I can see no traces of wear, and it looks undisfigured by patchy lustre, just an even dark patina. Lovely!

Not sure I follow your logic here, David?

I rate the desirability (and value) of 1967 coins ... 1. Florin (normal mintage, superseded by the 10 pence in 1968, circulated until 1992) 2. Halfcrown (minted 1967, 68, demonetised in 69 but always a popular denom) 3. Halfpenny 1968 (wide rim - not really scarce but probably only a quarter of 1967 mintage? Only minted 1968, demonetised 69) 4. Sixpence (minted until ?1970, planned to be phased out,reprieved and circulated until 1980) 5. Threepence (minted for 3 or 4 years - very very common but somehow popular; demonetised 1971) 6. Halfpenny 1967 (minted only one year, demonetised 69) 7. Penny (the turkey of the group - vies with 1971 1p as the commonest UK coin ever; not very popular, exists BU in huge quantities. Avoid!!) that ties in nicely. Out of 74 sales of 1967 coins in the last 2 years, these are the UNC prices I've been able to achieve: 1. Wide rim ha'penny: £2.52 2. Florin: £2.50 3. Halfcrown: £2.04 4. Sixpence: £1.21 5. Normal ha'penny: £1.19 6. Penny: £1.19 7. Threepence: 67p interesting that I've found it easier to sell pennies than threepences...and the Wide rims have all been recent, perhaps a trickledown effect of the new interest in varieties. Mr Groom can take some credit for that, I expect! Wow, yes that correlates quite nicely! I'm not too surprised about the penny vs 3d : the penny is one of the most popular denoms ever really. But they really are horribly horribly common. But so too are the 3d, and of all those denoms, a fully lustred 3d bit is arguably the most attractive. I still have a supply of BU 1967 wide rims. If ever you start to run low, let me know and I can wing a few your way. :-)

And save each image as low-compression as you can without noticeable degradation. E.g. Photoshop Level 5 (out of 12) will be reasonable quality.

I rate the desirability (and value) of 1967 coins ... 1. Florin (normal mintage, superseded by the 10 pence in 1968, circulated until 1992) 2. Halfcrown (minted 1967, 68, demonetised in 69 but always a popular denom) 3. Halfpenny 1968 (wide rim - not really scarce but probably only a quarter of 1967 mintage? Only minted 1968, demonetised 69) 4. Sixpence (minted until ?1970, planned to be phased out,reprieved and circulated until 1980) 5. Threepence (minted for 3 or 4 years - very very common but somehow popular; demonetised 1971) 6. Halfpenny 1967 (minted only one year, demonetised 69) 7. Penny (the turkey of the group - vies with 1971 1p as the commonest UK coin ever; not very popular, exists BU in huge quantities. Avoid!!)

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Oh come on! It's got to be worth face value?

It's good that some are shifting and your assessment of average just below EF is roughly what I would have expected. I actually rather like the QE2 sixpences, I think I would have got myself in a complete tangle trying to engrave the various bits of vegetation on the reverse! I will agree about 1950s coins in high grade now becoming rather scarce. Hm, depends how you define 'not that long ago' Declan! I remember as a schoolboy in the late 60s, the scarcer 1950s coins really came into their own (we're talking UNC I assume?) Now that's (gulp) over 40 years ago.. I still have a tin of BU 60s EIIs (halfcrowns down to halfpennies) which I shall now hang onto! Sounds like they might be at long last a-comin' into their own. But I won't hold mah breath.

These coins are very seldom graded below EF but I have a feeling that by rating it as low as fine, we are perhaps jumping straight through VF without stopping. Although it was quite a nice portrait, the obverse detail was always very shallow and as such parts of the design did erode very quickly. When all said and done, a 1967 sixpence has had a maximum of 13 years circulation and unless it was initially a very weak strike, I just don't think that's enough to get it to into the fine category. We can argue about this one, because ultimately it doesn't matter a fig! I'd rate all the obverse as VF apart from the hair detail. Which in my book has to NOT contain completely bald (worn) patches to rate VF. Talking of books, I'll have to consult yours Derek, to see how you graded Liz!! It's a difficult area though. I have a 1919H penny which is better than EF generally, but has virtually NO hair detail at all (due to the common use of worn dies by Heatons). How do you grade that? Virtually impossible.

Possibly! But if there are any women in this forum, then they are RARE CREATURES!! I suspect Hello is a lad.

One of them should be a standard web address, right? If surrounded by html, just strip away the html and make a link as you've done already with your own website.