Peckris

Looks to be Henry V if anything. Henry V ? What, as in "You're Agin-alaugh"?

I think it is a miracle it has been identified as a coin

As someone who has collected since they were young, clearly the experience has been wasted time. I sometimes think that people grow up in a complete vacuum, but can't decide whether they are too embarrassed to ask questions or think they know everything in the first place. The me page talks about business hours, suggesting this is a professional business. The grading suggests a case of pinning the grade tail on the donkey scale. Given the number of places you can find illustrated grades, do these people use any reference books or is all grading done on a wishful thinking basis? I wondered how long it would take for the guys on the Forum to post on the 1846 when I saw first it advertised. The seller should be ashamed of himself for the way the ad is written. Oh I don't know - the grade certainly does look Extremely F**ked

I can't spot any wear either.

(Sorry. Sorry. Couldn't resist..)

That's a very nice example

I don't need Freeman - it's 6+G (the common type). But even so, it's a nice penny

2. Later (not hollow) neck :

The easiest way is to look at the neck : if there is a pronounced ridge running down from behind the ear to the tip of the truncation, dividing the neck front and back - then it's the 'hollow neck' variety. However, if the neck is more or less a continuous convex curve, then it isn't. The hollow neck is scarcer, but not by a huge degree. These pictures (separate posts) should help, though they're not florins : 1. 'Hollow neck'

I'd say very close to UNC, and an absolute bargain for £15! We often help each other out with prospective purchases, so as long as you're not posting an eBay (or other) link every day, we'll be glad to help you out.

She'll be the antiques dealer, then?

That amount wouldn't even buy you a museum copy. Is your family motto 'Fair prices never paid'? bonus pretium nunquam pensus est

We were talking about copper and bronze pennies...

That's like saying "I'm only interested in cars from 1900 onwards"

Yes unlikely he bought it as a 2+G I suppose, is he just pulling a saxby? I'd give him the benefit of the doubt except that it's still listed as obv. 2 and he says he has higher res images available on request so I don't understand why he didn't use those in the first place! Does eBay charge for the size of picture?

Me too. This coin is still being listed as the 2+G, did either of you get a reply from the seller? He insisted it had 15 leaves in the wreath, so must be obverse 2! I pointed out that the photo wasn't of sufficient quality to examine the leaves but that the position of the bust was the clincher. He didn't reply further! At this point then he's hoping somebody buys it and doesn't send it back. Must be an awkward position to be in though if he actually bought it as a 2+G, but surely now he just has to take the hit? Anyone who forks out good money for a 2+G without knowing their subject is - dare I say it - asking for trouble. Obverse 6 is markedly different from Obverse 2 for those with eyes to see.

Me too. This coin is still being listed as the 2+G, did either of you get a reply from the seller? I didn't get a reply.

The amazing thing is - it passed through 000's of hands before anyone noticed anything wrong

It all depends - as they say - on the variety! Tell you what, if I find all 4 varieties of 1937 penny I'll swap you for a 1922 with 1927 reverse..

Rolex? ROLEX?? What a name! There's a young man who will do.. Her Majesty's Pleasure.

Yes. Rather excessive I think. But then I only use the site for reference too look up designs/ specifications. I've never actually thought of joining myself. And given the T&C doubt that I would. I rather agree with you Christof. Firstly I'd be none to happy giving someone rights to private messages (rather a misnomer if Colnect can do as they wish with them!) and secondly while I'd have no real problems with casual use of images I create, this appears to give them the right to re-use them. Possibly for financial gain, although that part isn't clear. The obvious retort to that, is to add a very obvious watermark to all images you upload - if they want the rights to them, they'll have to take 'em with watermark as well.

Yes Nord, the second is a proof. I have both currency and proof of each, but these two photos show the sea more clearly. Can I write your biography? Oh please, please, please! You'll have to get in quick. I'm already taking bids for the film rights!

And the 1855 "Dot" on Victoria's Forehead, and the 1870 Pronounced "dot" beneath the Y in Penny, plus the 1880, 8 over 8 (ran out of space, can't load that one)! Ha,Ha! Really, that's how it's pronounced? So I suppose anyone born in 1870 could say they were born in "the year dot"... Apart from these: 1904 '4 points to tooth' 1911 Gouby X 1915 'recessed ear' 1916 'recessed ear' 1944 'last 4 points to tooth' 1946 'ONE*' flaw Does anyone have anything not listed in Freeman? (actually Dave Groom lists a couple of other date position varieties, as I recall?) I have the 1946 and 1897 dot flaws, 1916 recessed ear (UNC) but still looking for a Gouby X There's a few different date spacings in the 1890's that Freeman doesn't list - 1899 for example where the last 9 appears further from the first 9. I've also come across an 1869 where the last 9 is a lot higher than the rest of the date.. Are all the different open 3's noted in Freeman as well? I don't have mine to hand Luckily I was helped out by a forum member with the Gouby X. I wouldn't bother with the 1899 to be honest. There's a plethora of different final digit spacings on every date from 1896 to 1899 (at least) - they really don't have any other difference to make them more interesting, and you'd be collecting minute differences forever I reckon. The date spacings on buns in the 1870s are actually entirely separate reverse designs where the wide or narrow date spacing - which itself is quite dramatic - is the most obvious difference.

Yes Nord, the second is a proof. I have both currency and proof of each, but these two photos show the sea more clearly. Can I write your biography? Oh please, please, please!

No, the most boring by far concerns the 1937 penny reverse. There's two MICRO-MICRO varieties, which have something to do with whether the exergue line crosses through a tooth or not. Both are equally common, and I've never even looked to see which mine is, or the proof, as I JUST DON'T CARE I not heard of the exergue example. The pointing of the P in PENNY is the usual way, P to tooth and P to gap. There's two obverse as well. Sorry, my bad! I've just consulted Freeman, and it's sea level not exergue line Shows how much I care...